# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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Trump exhorts rally crowd to knock the hell out of a heckler.

[https://wapo.st/3NndYtN](https://wapo.st/3NndYtN)

(gift link)

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> (gift link)

(It didn’t work for me…I got the paywall)

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump exhorts rally crowd to knock the hell out of a heckler.

This does not seem like protected speech to me. It seems a call for violence which (I think) is not protected first amendment speech.

Not that there is a chance in hell Trump will ever be held accountable for it.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> (It didn’t work for me…I got the paywall)

It didn’t work for me, either. Can we get some pertinent quotes, or a summary?

ETA: There was a heckler at a Trump rally? Maybe he’s not as popular as he thinks he is.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
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> [@Spoons](#):
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> There was a heckler at a Trump rally?

He was in my neck of the stix recently, and I entertained the idea of going to heckle. But turns out I’m allergic to getting the shit kicked out of me by a bunch of Neanderthals.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Is there _any_ evidence or any such thing happening even once that he’s basing this on?

I assume that he’s basing it on the Mariel Boatlift from Cuba. Which was supposed to allow Cuban Americans to bring their relatives out of Cuba, but which Castro used as an excuse to get rid of some of his prisoners. This was a big deal in 1982, so probably right in the sweet spot of what remains of Trumps memory (back when Carson was alive). The narrative from the news at the time pretty much matches the narrative that he’s trying to spread about the current sent of immigrants. But nothing like what happened in the boat lift is happening now, and even with that, the proportion of the Cuban immigrants that were actually released hardened criminals was highly exaggerated.

Here is an interesting podcast ([with transcript](https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1149875505)t) that I found about it.

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Quite the indictment of a former and possibly future president of the United States

We’ll add to his list of other indictments.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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> [@Irishman](#):
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> > [@Atamasama](#):
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> > The only question is **why** he’d be banned. Trolling? Personal attacks? Racist/misogynistic/transphobic slurs? Maybe just being a jerk?
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> He wouldn’t be banned for any specific reason. By that, I mean that he has multiple violations of every reason, so he would be banned for his entire posting history. Including sock puppets.

No doubt he’d reach that in one post, two if you count the sock puppeting.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> No doubt he’d reach that in one post, two if you count the sock puppeting.

**Stable\_Genius** and **John\_Barron** were the same poster?!

😲

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> > [@Irishman](#):
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> > …I mean that he has multiple violations of every reason, so he would be banned for his entire posting history.
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> Quite the indictment of a former and possibly future president of the United States (I 100% agree with you).

Meh. What’s one more indictment?

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Meh. What’s one more indictment?

I can hear Trump now. "I’ve been indicted. Again. Nobody in the history of our country has been indicted more than me. I’ve done nothing wrong, it’s election interference, it’s Kamala influencing the Justice Department, she’s controlling it … "

Pretty sure that @Smapti can put a better spin on this, but this will do for now.

(Aside: I always love when Trump paints himself as a lawyer, or at least someone schooled in the law. His “it’s unconstitutional!” remarks make us real constitutional scholars, called to the bar, because we’ve passed the bar, laugh out loud. Hey, Trump? What’s the closest you’ve ever been to a law class? Walking down the hall outside of Contracts 101?)

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Same thing thing he does every day to piss me off: keeps breathing.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
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> [@Spoons](#):
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> His “it’s unconstitutional!” remarks make us real constitutional scholars, called to the bar, because we’ve passed the bar, laugh out loud. Hey, Trump? What’s the closest you’ve ever been to a law class? Walking down the hall outside of Contracts 101?)

Even those of us who have not passed the Bar can know better.

Trump is absolutely not curious. He wants what he wants and it ends there as it would for a five-year-old. He is not an intelligent person. I’ve actually wondered if he was illiterate. I have decided he can read…but he doesn’t. He sure as shit has no concept of how the law or the constitution works and has no interest in anyone telling him different.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Hey, Trump? What’s the closest you’ve ever been to a law class? Walking down the hall outside of Contracts 101?)

Has often as the courts have tried to school him, you’d think he’d’ve picked up something.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
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If granted, he’ll excoriate Sleepy Joe and Ka-MA-luh for “wasteful public spending,” and promise a Congressional inquiry:

> **[Trump campaign asks for military aircraft with antimissile capabilities and...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/11/politics/donald-trump-security-requests/index.html)**
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> After two attempted assassinations and an ongoing threat from Iran, Donald Trump’s campaign has ramped up requests for security, including transport by military aircraft and additional security measures on the ground at the former president’s...

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> After two attempted assassinations and an ongoing threat from Iran, Donald Trump’s campaign has ramped up requests for security, including transport by military aircraft and additional security measures on the ground at the former president’s campaign stops, three sources familiar with the discussions told CNN.
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> Trump’s campaign wants to use these resources – including access to military aircraft with deterrent systems to protect against surface-to-air missiles – as the former president crisscrosses the US during the final weeks of the presidential campaign.

Incidentally, Biden is fine with it:

> “I’ve told the department to give him every single thing he needs … as he were a sitting president,” Biden said. “If it fits into that category, that’s fine.”

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I think a several hour trip in a C-130 would be a real treat for him and his sycophants.

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I’ve actually wondered if he was illiterate. I have decided he can read…but he doesn’t.

Yup. The word is “aliterate.”

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It appears that there is actual [evidence](https://meidasnews.com/news/new-york-times-report-shows-coordination-between-twitter-and-trump-campaign) that the ShitGibbon campaign has coördinated with X/Elno, on the matter of the leaked Vance material. This seems to constitute improper or illegal activity (the equivalent of exceeding the contribution limit). But, of course, the FEC is unfair to billionaires, so this would be them oppressing ShitGibbon for nothing more than being ShitGibbon.

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@DavidNRockies The army could bring the [Tarhe](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-54_Tarhe#/media/File%3ASikorsky_Skycrane_carrying_parachute_bomb_c.jpg) out of retirement to transport him.

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> … I’m allergic to getting the shit kicked out of me by a bunch of Neanderthals.

That’s an insult. Research has shown that Neanderthals were more intelligent and creative than commonly thought — and far more so than the run-of-the-sty MAGAss.

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We’ve reached the point where he roots around in his diaper and just smears that shit all over his face.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/cERr4Jp.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/cERr4Jp.png)

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