# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I hope (and not because I want him to die but…) it happens before then because Jimmy deserves a decent send-off for a truly decent man.

Like you, I have no wish for Carter to die, but the best case scenario is that it happens the day before the inauguration so Trump’s ascendancy gets totally upstaged. That would drive him _nuts._

A smart autocrat, not consumed with the desperate need to have his ego gratified at all times, would recognize this as an opportunity to engage in organizational shenanigans while everyone else is distracted by the pomp and circumstance of the funeral. Trump is not a smart man.

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > Now the grifter-in-chief is selling a line of cologne called ‘Fight Fight Fight’. He’s turning the Presidency into his own MAGA-branded QVC channel. So classy!
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> Well, he has to pay those civil judgements SOMEhow.

lol, sorry but I doubt it.

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> …it happens the day before the inauguration…

I’m seeing it the other way around - my Zimbabwean dollars are on news of Carter’s demise getting totally quashed by the inauguration (please let me be wrong on that) and that the GOP will do all they can to _somehow_ (and that’s a strong ‘somehow’) put some kind of kibosh on the grand state funeral so that it gets moved to Four Seasons Landscaping or something.

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If it happens before the inauguration, Biden (hopefully) goes all in on the pomp. He is the president until Orangeanus gets sworn in. Particularly galling to Cheetolini will be all the flags at half-mast.

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> But mostly ass.

Definitely this, in what I’ve seen. Armpits get a fair amount of mention, too (perhaps because of Adam Kinzinger’s prominent mention of it in his infamous description).

> **[Adam Kinzinger Tells Kimmel Trump Has a ‘Pungent Odor’](https://www.thewrap.com/adam-kinzinger-donald-trump-odor-jimmy-kimmel/)**
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> “So if you take like armpits, ketchup, makeup, and a little butt. It’s probably like that all mixed up,” the former representative jokes

(I apologize for this reply appearing adjacent to discussion of the possible reaction to Jimmy Carter’s death. He doesn’t deserve that proximity!)

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[https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/08/trump-end-birthright-citizenship-00193184](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/08/trump-end-birthright-citizenship-00193184)

# Trump says he will end birthright citizenship

“We’re going to have to get it changed,” Trump said, referring to the 14th Amendment of the Constitution."

By executive action no less. Usual collection of lies including no other country has birthright citizenship.

Positive note about Dreamers then back to lies, “…Efforts at bipartisan immigration reform in the Senate earlier this year collapsed due to opposition from then-candidate Trump”.

More crap, “And we’re going to make it very easy for people to come in in terms of they have to pass the test.”

He added, “They have to be able to tell you what the Statue of Liberty is. They have to tell you a little bit about our country. They have to love our country. They can’t come out of prisons.” This from a clod who couldn’t tell you what Pearl Harbor was about; storming British airfields in the American Revolution… so many lies.

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> “We’re going to have to get it changed,” Trump said, referring to the 14th Amendment of the Constitution."

All of a sudden, I have no problem with this, _ **provided** _ it applies retroactively to Trump and thus makes him ineligible to be president.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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[And now ABC has to fork over $15 million to the felon.](https://www.aol.com/news/abc-agrees-15-million-donald-205228716.html) (The link goes to AOL.)

> ABC News has agreed to pay $15 million toward [Donald Trump’s](https://apnews.com/hub/donald-trump) presidential library to settle a defamation lawsuit over anchor George Stephanopoulos’ inaccurate on-air assertion that the president-elect had been found civilly liable for raping writer [E. Jean Carroll.](https://apnews.com/hub/e-jean-carroll)
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> As [part of the settlement](https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68351681/58/1/trump-v-american-broadcasting-companies-inc/) made public Saturday, ABC News posted an [editor’s note to its website](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nancy-mace-defends-support-trump-after-found-liable/story?id=107964612) expressing regret over Stephanopoulos’ statements during a March 10 segment on his “This Week” program. The network will also pay $1 million in legal fees to the law firm of Trump’s attorney, Alejandro Brito.

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Usually, due to where our building is located, we get inauguration day off, but this year it happens to also fall on when Martin Luther King Jr. Day is celebrated. So not only am I not getting an extra day off, the racist gets inaugurated on MLK day! Although I do love an extra day off, I would have been fine if the inauguration of Harris would have fallen on that day, and it would have been especially extra sweet. He hasn’t even become president and he is already fouling up the next year.

`//i\\`

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> [@icon](#):
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> He hasn’t even become president and he is already fouling up the next year.

What he’s fouling is the nest.

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [And now ABC has to fork over $15 million to the felon.](https://www.aol.com/news/abc-agrees-15-million-donald-205228716.html) (The link goes to AOL.)

They don’t have to. They chose to. Many legal scholars believe the would have won in court. Just spineless obeisance.

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Many legal scholars believe the would have won in court. Just spineless obeisance.

They may have done the math and realized paying him off would be more valuable than letting it drag out in court and having it in the news cycle all the time.

On the other hand I wish the chickshits would have fought him anyway, and I think they look worse because of it (from both sides; those who think they’re admitting they did it, and those who think they’re being weasels for giving up).

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > [And now ABC has to fork over $15 million to the felon.](https://www.aol.com/news/abc-agrees-15-million-donald-205228716.html) (The link goes to AOL.)
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> They don’t have to. They chose to. Many legal scholars believe the would have won in court. Just spineless obeisance.

Yeah. They could have at least made the point that the judge in the case in question (the E. Jean Carroll case) DID say that what Trump did is rape:

> [@](#):
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> … After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.
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> Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.
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> “This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.
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> A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. **He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape** , as commonly understood. …

(My bolding.)

Instead, ABC (Disney) basically crawled on its belly, begging the Dear Leader to refrain from smiting them. Which may not work; who’d be surprised if he went after them anyway?

(Should be a gift link:  
[https://wapo.st/41xERDF](https://wapo.st/41xERDF)

(Regular link:  
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/)

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ABC should _definitely_ have fought it (and could have deposed Trump and asked him some particularly pointed questions under oath). Very, very disappointed that they didn’t.

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Obeying in advance.

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What bothers me is the gloating the maganuts are doing.

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I gotta say, I’m amused at the idea of a Presidential Library for this Ass-Clown. What will it house? Coloring Books and Take-out Menus? Transcripts of late-night twitter rants?

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> What will it house?

Oh, heroic NFTs, of course. The whole library will be stored on a flash drive. Hopefully, it’s one of those Chinese knockoffs that promise 1 TB of storage, but are really only about 250 MB.

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> The whole library will be stored on a flash drive.

Kept in an Altoids tin.

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I gotta say, I’m amused at the idea of a Presidential Library for this Ass-Clown.

He will never have a library unless his fans build it on their own. And if he is alive when they start, he will still try to get them to give him the money instead. A shrine, however…

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