# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/941 "2022-02-19T15:38:23Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/us/politics/material-recovered-from-trump-by-archives-included-classified-information.html?unlocked\_article\_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw\_PIxftm3iWka3DPDm8SiPkORJCH\_0bRZKF4IN46wzmBRdZFdaUiT\_tsw\_VSMwljUQ6t54eehZEdZi8k7IupVWM3wZ\_WGLE--jv3YmS1bex7zaakvhyHPTT1APuLjzZ-dEs-\_8x5LBz1hGcaucejfIIVotpugrdnDYZnFXxGPHPU6--8Ak9-O42GOgWIvgdhR-0PUTzMzYOXvqYAdwlUCQ6WTXp5tDws-ZgLboNsSaX-KxYqeMv9iaxASTA7adf0WOBiAtTchL5osrXSqBeTyMvQxP0-FahcubqsoX\_tfR90C-vQZAOtK2Rf4Dta-UpcuCqmXNU6gFAzRyJn68c1LiJazWeWf-iwVxQzOgkh6sKWCo0&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/us/politics/material-recovered-from-trump-by-archives-included-classified-information.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DPDm8SiPkORJCH_0bRZKF4IN46wzmBRdZFdaUiT_tsw_VSMwljUQ6t54eehZEdZi8k7IupVWM3wZ_WGLE--jv3YmS1bex7zaakvhyHPTT1APuLjzZ-dEs-_8x5LBz1hGcaucejfIIVotpugrdnDYZnFXxGPHPU6--8Ak9-O42GOgWIvgdhR-0PUTzMzYOXvqYAdwlUCQ6WTXp5tDws-ZgLboNsSaX-KxYqeMv9iaxASTA7adf0WOBiAtTchL5osrXSqBeTyMvQxP0-FahcubqsoX_tfR90C-vQZAOtK2Rf4Dta-UpcuCqmXNU6gFAzRyJn68c1LiJazWeWf-iwVxQzOgkh6sKWCo0&smid=url-share) I saw another headline about this this morning and it made me wonder: what did trump plan to DO with the classified material that he ~~borrowed~~ stole from the White House? Is it too far-fetched to think that he planned to capitalize on it ($$) it somewhere down the road? I know that there is no bottom-limit to how low he and his cronies will go… but is even he capable of selling stuff to Putin\* or his Korean BFF or holding the material hostage and asking Congress to pay some kind of ransom? Not realizing that the gummint can just go and seize the stuff (like they did). Surely, whoever packed up those boxes (and it _surely_ wasn’t trump) knew some of what was in there? I mean, WTF? * * * * * * \* I’m sure Putin already knows anything and everything that Donald would want to sell/give him. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/942 "2022-02-19T15:43:51Z")
It may have been simply to deprive Biden of having the information more than to do with possessing the information. Withholding critical classified information from a new president trying to deal with sensitive situations is totally in Trump’s Wheelhouse of Evil. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/943 "2022-02-19T15:46:48Z")
Rock band name… 🙂 I can see the t-shirts now. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/944 "2022-02-19T15:55:08Z")
Some may be incriminating. Some may be just embarrassing. Like the hurricane map he ‘Sharpied up’. But Trump has no conscience, so embarrassing really doesn’t work here. Someone must have helped him here. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/945 "2022-02-19T17:08:24Z")
I read somewhere that the Shariped up hurricane map was there. I’d like to see this prominently on display at the Trump “Library” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/946 "2022-02-19T18:15:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > …what did trump plan to DO with the classified material that he ~~borrowed~~ stole from the White House? I’m still not convinced that Trump ever plans anything. He gives a speech announcing that he’ll replace Obamacare, or have an infrastructure week, or dozens of other things he said he’d do. He says these things in the moment because he knows they’ll get him headlines and they’re the kinds of things that presidents talk about. It doesn’t matter to him if anything gets passed or anything gets built, and he knows that if anyone ever presses him on the subject he’ll have moved on to something else presidential sounding. I think that when he was packing up to leave the White House he said “take everything you can.” He doesn’t plan, he wants, and acts. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/947 "2022-02-19T18:49:49Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Enough gall to be divided into three parts. golf clap 👏 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/948 "2022-02-19T22:20:35Z")
That golf clap becomes relevant… > **[Trump properties in talks to host lucrative Saudi golf events](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/19/trump-saudi-arabia-golf/)** > > Former president’s courses at Doral and Bedminster could strike a deal with a new league backed by the kingdom, which stands accused of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi and other human rights abuses. > … > The financial terms of the proposed deal are unclear, but the events would undoubtedly provide revenue for Trump through the Saudis, who are making a fierce bid to recruit PGA Tour players and launch a series of golf tournaments. > > As president, Trump frequently defended the Saudi government even as it committed a wide range of human right abuses, including [the 2018 murder of Washington Post contributing columnist Jamal Khashoggi](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-concludes-saudi-crown-prince-ordered-jamal-khashoggis-assassination/2018/11/16/98c89fe6-e9b2-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_15) and the imprisonment and execution of gay citizens. Trump’s first overseas trip as president was to Saudi Arabia, and he regularly praised the country’s wealth and power, even as some advisers pushed him to take a tougher line on the country. > > Such a deal would also provide a measure of revenge for Trump against the PGA Tour, an organization that he courted for years but that later enraged him when politics came between them. While Trump campaigned in the summer of 2016, the PGA Tour announced it was [yanking](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/golf/pga-tour-moves-tournament-from-miami-donald-trump-course--to-mexico/2016/06/01/0a625456-2838-11e6-ae4a-3cdd5fe74204_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_17) its elite World Golf Championship tournament from Doral and moving it to Mexico City. Trump also lost the PGA championship from his course in New Jersey last year, as the organization pulled its event days after the Jan. 6 insurrection by a pro-Trump mob at the U.S. Capitol. > … Making money **and** shooting the finger at the PGA? Win-win! He never disappoints and never surprises. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/949 "2022-02-19T22:31:33Z")
I wonder how much of that classified material Chump made off with found its way into Putin’s desk drawer. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/950 "2022-02-20T00:00:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I saw another headline about this this morning and it made me wonder: what did trump plan to DO with the classified material that he ~~borrowed~~ stole from the White House? I doubt he had any plan. > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I think that when he was packing up to leave the White House he said “take everything you can.” He doesn’t plan, he wants, and acts. I concur. I would note for information’s sake that there are usually three levels of Classification: “Confidential”, which is the lowest level, “Secret”, which is where most Classified information is, and “Top Secret”, which merits the highest level of protection and needs special clearances to access. Most any Government worker requiring it can get “Secret” clearance, but very few will get “Top Secret” clearance. Of course the President is cleared to read all levels. So I wonder exactly what clearance level of documents he and his folks took; Confidential is serious but not all that major; Secret is a big concern and Top Secret could (and should) lead to serious repercussions and perhaps court. We shall see. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/951 "2022-02-20T01:27:57Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And what was it Tan the Conman said about people pleading the Fifth? [Meidas Touch is here to remind Tan the Conman of One Individual’s stance on people pleading the Fifth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYKEjA9qRA). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/952 "2022-02-20T04:40:09Z")
Consistency has never been a virtue in Trumpworld. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/953 "2022-02-20T13:43:46Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > So I wonder exactly what clearance level of documents he and his folks took; Confidential is serious but not all that major; Secret is a big concern and Top Secret could (and should) lead to serious repercussions and perhaps court. Reporting by the Washington Post states that at least some of the documents were explicitly designated Top Secret. I knew I recalled reading this somewhere and was able to dig up a cite. > **[Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified,...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/10/trump-records-classified/)** > > The existence of documents officially labeled as classified in the trove — which has not previously been reported — raises new questions about why the materials were taken out of the White House. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/954 "2022-02-20T21:32:49Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Enough gall to be divided into three parts. ISWYDT And to think I doubted the value of my high school Latin classes! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/955 "2022-02-22T23:05:54Z")
> **[Trump hints at 2024 presidential run in radio interview (NASDAQ:DWAC)](https://seekingalpha.com/news/3802774-trump-hints-at-2024-presidential-run-in-radio-interview)** > > Former President Donald Trump appeared to hint at a 2024 presidential run in a radio interview earlier. When asked on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show if he will be running... > When asked on the[_Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show_](https://www.clayandbuck.com/president-trump-with-cb-from-mar-a-lago/) if he will be running for president in 2024, Trump responded that he couldn’t really answer due to campaign finance laws… Trump? Caring about laws? Yeah, right. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/956 "2022-02-22T23:08:22Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > > [@OttoDaFe](#): > > > > Enough gall to be divided into three parts. > > ISWYDT > > And to think I doubted the value of my high school Latin classes! I got it, and I never took a Latin class. Everything I know about ancient European history I learned from Asterix books! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/957 "2022-02-22T23:41:17Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Trump responded that he couldn’t really answer due to campaign finance laws… Because all the money he rakes in is his, unless he says he declares that he is running. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/958 "2022-02-23T00:31:58Z")
I’m willing to bet he’s also afraid he’d lose again. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/959 "2022-02-23T00:47:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Making money **and** shooting the finger at the PGA? Win-win! > > He never disappoints and never surprises. Is it possible (or even legal) for the PGA to simply announce that any player who goes to a Saudi Trump tournament will be ineligible to play on a PGA event for that year? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/960 "2022-02-23T00:49:53Z")
Probably both, from my admittedly cursory familiarity with the PGA. The problem is that they lack the stones to do it. If not, I’m sure an individual course can ban someone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=47) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=49)