# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I made my point, they won’t notice the $5 they didn’t get, but at least I did a tiny thing and I guess doing a tiny thing is what I have to do for four more years (ugh, i can’t believe we’re doing this again)

But multiply your tiny thing by millions, and Coke _might just_ notice.

(Hmm, that didn’t come out exactly right…)

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The unending black hole of his greed is both infuriating and depressing. At least he’s consistent. Is the money just going into his pocket or somewhere else?

> **[Trump launches his own $TRUMP meme coin, price soars overnight](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-launches-own-meme-coin-cryptocurrency/)**
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> Trump unveiled the so-called meme coin, which is designed to capitalize on the popularity of a certain personality, movement or viral internet trend, on social media.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Is the money just going into his pocket or somewhere else?

As with his idols, money he acquires likely goes partly into his own pocket (possibly into offshore accounts for safekeeping) and partly into funds he will need to stay in power until he dies, not that he thinks he’s going to.

Pay-offs become necessary at various points in a dictator’s career. Having a big pile of ~cash that’s not accountable in any way, can be helpful.

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I bought Pepsi instead of Coke today.

Back when I drank colas, pepsi was out of the question. It tasted like gunpower tea strained through beach sand.

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Ok, so what the hell is a “meme coin”? I looked at wikipedia but I’m still confused.

Also, “$TRUMP” looks like _strump_. Does that make the creator a _$TRUMPet_?

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Ok, so what the hell is a “meme coin”? I looked at wikipedia but I’m still confused.

[Trump launches crypto meme coin, ballooning net worth ahead of inauguration](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/18/trump-crypto-meme-coin-inauguration-00199157)

> Trump launched the so-called memecoin — a digital token with no intrinsic real-world value that is traded on a digital ledger technology called blockchain — with posts [on his social media site](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/113846888132979151) [and X](https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1880446012168249386) after 9 p.m., prompting the asset to soar in value. Its market capitalization was above $5 billion as of 2:30 p.m. Saturday, according to [data from CoinGecko](https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/official-trump), and it has seen more than $11 billion in trading volume.

I was listening to a video where the commentors said that you couldn’t actually buy anything with the Trump memecoin, unlike, say, Bitcoin. IDK if that’s true, but it seems like just another grifty money grab by Trump. And, ethically there’s this:

> A president-elect launching a new business product is a highly unusual move, and it is a major concern for ethics watchdogs, who say Trump stands to profit from policy changes he is poised to usher in.
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> “It is absolutely wild,” said Jordan Libowitz, vice president for communications at the nonprofit Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. “After decades of seeing presidents-elect spend the time leading up to inauguration separating themselves from their finances to show that they don’t have any conflicts of interest, we now have a president-elect who, the weekend before inauguration, is launching new businesses along with promises to deregulate … those sectors in a way to just blatantly profit off his own presidency.”
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> Some Trump critics in the crypto sector also worry that the product is a bad look. Anthony Scaramucci, a crypto evangelist who briefly served as Trump’s communications director in his first term before turning into a fierce critic, wrote on X Saturday that it “is bad for the industry.”
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> “Don’t delude yourself. It’s Idi Amin level corruption,” he wrote, referring to the former Ugandan dictator.

ETA: I guess the “meme” is Trump himself, like his digital NFTs/trading cards or whatever they are. The commentors compared it to physical coins and such that are issued as collectables in commemoration of inaugurations except you couldn’t even display these on your desk or wall.

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> I was listening to a video where the commentors said that you couldn’t actually buy anything with the Trump memecoin, unlike, say, Bitcoin. IDK if that’s true, but it seems like just another grifty money grab by Trump.

The other day on NotAlwaysRight was a story about a customer coming into a bank with a $5,000 Trump bill printed on foil and was highly upset when the bank wouldn’t credit his account $5,000.

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> And, ethically there’s this

We all well know by now, _ethics are for Democrats_. The last Republican who was genuinely held to account for any kind of misbehavior was, um, um, wait, I know this one, it was, uh …

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Nixon?

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He was held to account?

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In all honesty, I think Trump has faced more consequences for his crimes than Nixon did. Nixon never even saw a trial. At least Trump has been inconvenienced.

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I drink Iced Tea. Brands which are probably owned by Coke and Pepsi. What the hell am I supposed to do?

Make your own iced tea. Water, tea bags, done. For pennies.

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But then I miss out on the carcinogens; that’s what I’m paying for. Besides, that’s too much like cooking.

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Nixon was approached by other Republicans and encouraged to resign. I think their message was that he would be convicted by the Senate during his impeachment trial. That seems roughly equivalent to a plea bargain, to me. He didn’t serve any time for his crimes, and was pardoned, but it did cost him the presidency.

That’s more of a consequence than any inconvenience Trump has suffered.

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Nixon’s apologists haven’t had 1% of the success in 50 years\* than Trump’s had in a week after 6 January 2021. And no one (to my knowledge) ever called the Watergate break-in “beautiful.”

\* Oh Og, typing that makes me feel old(er).

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I don’t think Nixon got away with as much bad stuff as trump has. That’s gotta count for something.

All the inconvenience suffered by trump probably pales in comparison to the joy he felt by all the attention he got. He and his whole creepy family are going to rob this country blind.

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> He and his whole creepy family are going to rob this country blind.

Again.

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What the Trump crime family will do is small potatoes compared to what the oligarchs will do. Trump thinks he’s a shark when in reality he’s a remora, picking detritus off of the Big Fish’s skin.

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> "we now have a president-elect who, the weekend before inauguration, is launching new businesses along with promises to deregulate … those sectors in a way to just blatantly profit off his own presidency.”

(Quote is from “Jordan Libowitx” per citation in post by @dasmoocher .)

Well, that’s what Americans voted for. Corruption is so fun and entertaining!!!

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> He didn’t serve any time for his crimes, and was pardoned, but it did cost him the presidency.

And outside of some book royalties, Nixon never got the chance to profit off the Presidency. (In fairness to him, his faults didn’t seem to include the kind of corruption that leads to self-enrichment.)

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> And outside of some book royalties, Nixon never got the chance to profit off the Presidency. (In fairness to him, his faults didn’t seem to include the kind of corruption that leads to self-enrichment.)

Yeah, you’d have to go to Agnew for that.

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