# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 487
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9742 "2025-01-20T01:41:46Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Well, that’s what Americans voted for. Corruption is so fun and entertaining!!! It’s the American dream. Truly, anyone can be President. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9743 "2025-01-20T23:13:37Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > It’s the American dream. Truly, anyone can be President. Think of the kind of people who would never have thought of going into politics, because they couldn’t get as rich that way as they could by dealing drugs and breaking legs. And now they _can_ get that rich in politics. More, even. After a few years of attracting that type, will we have mayors and state legislators just openly gunning people down in the streets? And getting Time’s _Person of the Year_ status in return? ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9744 "2025-01-21T01:18:55Z")
They showed a snippet of the inauguration on the local news and Trump is actually extorting Tik Tok live. “Give the US 1/2 your worth”, which he says is $500 billion and I won’t ban you. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9745 "2025-01-21T05:11:13Z")
This is how he pissed me off… > **[Trump issues sweeping pardon of 1,500 Jan. 6 defendants, including rioters...](https://apnews.com/article/capitol-jan-6-pardons-trump-justice-department-8ce8b2a8f8cb602d5eaf85ac7b969606)** > > President Donald Trump says he is pardoning all of the 1,500-plus people who have been charged in the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Pardoning them all for J6. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9746 "2025-01-21T15:44:57Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Pardoning them all for J6. I think that of all the horrible, dark, depressing moments of the past 8 years this may have hit me the hardest. There literally is no justice. It’s OK to attempt a violent coup, as long as your guy gets into power. We are now officially a banana republic. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9747 "2025-01-21T20:04:25Z")
But the GOP is still the “law and order” party, of course. Yeesh. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9748 "2025-01-21T20:12:07Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > > [@Locrian](#): > > > > Pardoning them all for J6. > > I think that of all the horrible, dark, depressing moments of the past 8 years this may have hit me the hardest. There literally is no justice. It’s OK to attempt a violent coup, as long as your guy gets into power. We are now officially a banana republic. Yes, this. Trump just apparently declared the day he signed the pardons, January 20, as “ **National Beat on Police with Metal Poles Day**.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9749 "2025-01-21T23:09:16Z")
Is a pardoned person a forgiven criminal? Are we still allowed to call them criminals? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9750 "2025-01-21T23:14:41Z")
It doesn’t overturn the convictions at any rate. The ones who were convicted are still convicted felons. The ones with pending charges have not technically been found guilty of a crime yet and won’t be, since the charges will be dropped now. So, technically not criminals. Or at least not of any crimes relating to Jan 6 (many of these clowns are/were already criminals regardless of Jan 6). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9751 "2025-01-21T23:18:50Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Is a pardoned person a forgiven criminal? Yes, even the DOJ calls it an “act of forgiveness”. > **[Apply for Clemency](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/apply-clemency)** > A pardon is an expression of forgiveness and can help eliminate some of the consequences of a conviction. > [@eschereal](#): > > Are we still allowed to call them criminals? Yes, it’s not **vacating** a conviction. It’s not overturning a conviction. It’s not acquitting someone. It’s saying that they are still guilty of the crime they committed, but that for whatever reason the President of the United States felt that they no longer need to be punished. How that person is treated depends on a person’s philosophy. Some people will look at a J6 rioter who was pardoned as a vindicated hero, others (like myself) will see them as a criminal who attacked the very foundation of our country’s democracy and was first directed in that effort and then rescued from the consequences by an even bigger criminal who did even more to attack our democracy. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9752 "2025-01-21T23:24:54Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Is a pardoned person a forgiven criminal? Are we still allowed to call them criminals? Were they pardoned by a Republican or a Democrat? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9753 "2025-01-22T00:05:28Z")
I’m especially angry about Stewart Rhodes (Mr. Eye Patch) being released. He has an ex-wife and 6 kids who thought they were safe from him. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9754 "2025-01-22T01:28:17Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Stewart Rhodes Wikipedia says of his children: > [@](#): > > Rhodes required them to line up with their backs to him at [ATMs](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_teller_machine) and gas pumps to be on the lookout for [assassins](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin), and to unload groceries from the family vehicle one-armed so as to have a hand free in case of attack Which is totally normal parental behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9755 "2025-01-22T02:09:01Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Which is totally normal parental behaviour. If your dad is Cobra Commander. ---
**Author:** ![knavette57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knavette57/32/3871_2.png) [@knavette57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knavette57)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9756 "2025-01-22T02:22:09Z")
None of that stuff is good for a person. My mom died from gallbladder disease and pancreatic cancer in which it appeared that her drinking of 2 liters of Pepsi per day was a contributing factor. Mostly it was her overconsumption of the stuff, but I think if she had been drinking 2 liters of plain water…with maybe the occasional indulgence of soda…she might have lived much longer. Her death was painful, and she was quite sick for some months before she was diagnosed. I hate how he won, and he is the President once again, and this time might be so much worse. Right now, many people are stuck in their houses due to the weather, and I hope they are paying attention. Sadly, many will only notice when things begin to hit hard. By then it may be too late. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9757 "2025-01-22T02:32:53Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If your dad is Cobra Commander. Waaaasssssss oncccce aaa maaaaaan… Waaaaassssssss onnnnnncccccccceeee aaaaa maaaaaaaannnnnn… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9758 "2025-01-22T03:06:36Z")
> [@knavette57](#): > > Sadly, many will only notice when things begin to hit hard. By then it may be too late. _May be_ too late? _ **May** be?_ Too late was quite some while ago. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9759 "2025-01-22T03:28:37Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > > [@Atamasama](#): > > > > If your dad is Cobra Commander. > > Waaaasssssss oncccce aaa maaaaaan… > > Waaaaassssssss onnnnnncccccccceeee aaaaa maaaaaaaannnnnn… I understood that reference, Golobulus. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9760 "2025-01-22T03:40:01Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > > > Stewart Rhodes > > Wikipedia says of his children: > > > [@](#): > > > > Rhodes required them to line up with their backs to him at [ATMs](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_teller_machine) and gas pumps to be on the lookout for [assassins](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin), and to unload groceries from the family vehicle one-armed so as to have a hand free in case of attack > > Which is totally normal parental behaviour. I hope his children end up safe from the loon that is Stewart Rhodes. [His son Dakota seems to be a decent kid](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/us/politics/general-mark-milley-portrait.html?unlocked_article_code=1.qk4.ozA1.1TVx_eS-s9B1&smid=url-share). He ran for a seat in the Montana House in 2024 as a Democrat. Of course he lost. [Here is a BBC article](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63709446) showing Stewart Rhodes is a dangerous person. I fear for the safety of his son Dakota, Rhodes ex-wife and the other children. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9761 "2025-01-22T04:09:02Z")
It’s also “normal behavior” to steal your teenage Mormon wife’s college fund for yourself, and force her to strip to pay for your law school tuition (and one can safely assume that he beat her up every night after she came home, because of all the other men who were looking at her). It’s also “normal behavior” to leave for long periods of time, and leave your wife and kids with little food and no money or access to it, or a telephone or transportation, and regale them upon your return home with all the stories about the luxurious places you stayed at, and the gourmet meals you consumed. Not in my world, thankfully. Of course there’s probably no way to find this out for sure, but I for one would not be happy to find out that I didn’t get into law school, because he was there instead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=486) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=488)