# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 497
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9942 "2025-01-30T18:57:07Z")
_NY Times_: “Trump, without citing evidence, blames DEI and Democrats for plane crash. President Trump’s remarks, suggesting that diversity requirements and other policies somehow caused the collision of a passenger jet and an Army helicopter near Washington…” There are no words. Oh, wait, here’s some: FUCKING ASSHOLE. Not a SINGLE IOTA of compassion. How about “My heart goes out to the victims’ families”? GODDAMNED FUCKING SHITWAD. (Okay, I’m calm now…more or less…) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9943 "2025-01-30T19:04:00Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > “Trump, without citing evidence, blames DEI and Democrats for plane crash. President Trump’s remarks, suggesting that diversity requirements and other policies somehow caused the collision of a passenger jet and an Army helicopter near Washington…” I’ve read a lot of callous and unfeeling things in my 77 years and maybe even said a few, but this really drops the bottom out of things. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9944 "2025-01-30T19:06:45Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > _NY Times_: “Trump, without citing evidence, blames DEI and Democrats for plane crash. President Trump’s remarks, suggesting that diversity requirements and other policies somehow caused the collision of a passenger jet and an Army helicopter near Washington…” But… but… I thought the White House announced that Trump fixed this a week ago? > **[President Trump's America First Priorities](https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-ends-dei-madness-and-restores-excellence-and-safety-within-the-federal-aviation-administration/)** > > FLIGHTS SHOULD BE SUPERVISED BY THE BEST EMPLOYEES: President Donald J. Trump has signed a Presidential Memorandum terminating a Biden Administration The Fact Sheet’s banner explicitly says safety has been restored! > Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Ends DEI Madness and Restores Excellence and Safety within the Federal Aviation Administration > > January 22, 2025 ---
**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9945 "2025-01-30T19:11:10Z")
And isn’t Hegseth in charge of the army helicopter now? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9946 "2025-01-30T19:12:46Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > When called out on an obvious lie, he interrupted the reporter and said, “Who says so? You…?” Please have a link to a transcript of this part! Seriously, I cannot force myself to listen to even one syllable he utters. Listening to the whole thing would be torture. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9947 "2025-01-30T19:16:40Z")
Oh, there were plenty of fake words of sympathy and faux religious sentiments. I’m not sure which is more nauseating. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9948 "2025-01-30T20:05:38Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Please have a link to a transcript of this part! Seriously, I cannot force myself to listen to even one syllable he utters. Listening to the whole thing would be torture. OK, but it is long and ignorant. [Link](https://www.rev.com/transcripts/trump-speaks-on-d-c-plane-crash) … Mr. President. Speaker 12 ([43:59](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2639.58)): I want to ask you about the ice skaters in a moment because the U.S. Ice Skating committee was affected, but first, if I can, the cited FAA tax that you read is real, but the implications that this policy is new or that it stems from efforts that began under President Biden nor the transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg is demonstrably false. It’s been on the FAA’s website- Trump ([44:16](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2656.23)): Who said that, you? Speaker 12 ([44:17](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2657.16)): No, it’s on the website, the FAA’s website. It was there in 2013. It was there for the entirety- Trump ([44:21](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2661.57)): Take a look. What I read- Speaker 12 ([44:22](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2662.35)): It was there for the entirety of your administration too. Trump ([44:24](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2664.3)): Nice and easy. Speaker 12 ([44:24](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2664.57)): So my question is why didn’t you change the policy during your first administration? Trump ([44:28](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2668.08)): I did change it. I changed the Obama policy and we had a very good policy and then Biden came in and he changed it and then when I came in two days, three days ago, I signed a new order bringing it to the highest level of intelligence. Okay. Speaker 12 ([44:41](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2681.7)): It was on the website. crowd ([44:42](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2682.06)): Mr. President. Trump ([44:42](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2682.06)): Please. Speaker 12 ([44:42](https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/vDeEKu7TiLcoaDVgWSIlFVCQwtmVciQM1BPaPySYPDgF4jTXqJEeowTpw9ZKtSttXtCkCGg_7NBSyu3DD0NT4DW70ow?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=2682.06)): Respectfully, it was on the website. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9949 "2025-01-30T20:13:38Z")
Got it. Did he mention “two corinthians”? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9950 "2025-01-30T20:45:29Z")
Monty, someone video captured it, but I can only access it via [Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1idstx0/reporter_confronts_trumps_alternative_facts/). I’m not sure if that will work by you… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9951 "2025-01-30T20:45:46Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > OK, but it is long and ignorant. Many thanks. I just watched the NTSB briefing (mind you it’s only now 5:30 a.m. where I am (vacationing in Seoul) now. The chairwoman responded to a question I didn’t hear. Her response was that she and her team would not speculate. A follow-on question to her response was about Trump’s comment about the cause of the crash. Chairwoman Homendy responded, without mentioning Trump, that, again, she and her team would not speculate, but would base their findings on evidence after examining “the people, the machines, and the environment”. The most important part of her reply was that it is irresponsible to speculate. You know full well that Trump will start chucking ketchup bottles left and right now that an _independent_ agency’s chair_woman_ called him irresponsible and implied he’s ignorant of facts. BBC News had a republican strategist named Mark Terrill on right now. _That_ flack was justifying Trump’s comments, all of them, and just now stated Trump is "very honest, very transparent\*. Another person on, I think his name is Kurt Vaidel (didn’t see the spelling, and just heard the name at the end) lit into the flack. The following quote is to the best of my recollection. > The family members of those who died in this accident deserve factual, accurate determination of what happened and not the free riffing opinions of the leader of the free world, opions because he does not like diversity. > [@JKellyMap](#): > > Got it. Did he mention “two corinthians”? I bet he doesn’t want to talk about them because he doesn’t like Poles. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9952 "2025-01-30T20:52:03Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > … Is there a law that says Trump can’t personally sue people or corporations while he is president?.. No, and the Emoluments Clauses don’t address it. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9953 "2025-01-30T22:15:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I bet he doesn’t want to talk about them because he doesn’t like Poles. But we’d ‘wet the sponges’. Promise. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9954 "2025-01-30T23:04:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > …just now stated Trump is “very honest, very transparent”… If by _transparent_, he means we can see right straight through the bastard, then I agree. 😡 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9955 "2025-01-30T23:14:54Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > But… but… I thought the White House announced that Trump fixed this a week ago? > > [Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Ends DEI Madness and Restores Excellence and Safety within the Federal Aviation Administration – The White House](https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-ends-dei-madness-and-restores-excellence-and-safety-within-the-federal-aviation-administration/) > > The Fact Sheet’s banner explicitly says safety has been restored! > > > Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Ends DEI Madness and Restores Excellence and Safety within the Federal Aviation Administration > > > > January 22, 2025 The thing that has Donald dancing so hard to the ‘this happened because of FAA employing amputees and dwarfs’ tune (really!) is that the Jan 22 action you link to RESULTED IN FEWER AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS the night of the crash. Not to mention Elon pushing out the FAA administrator: > **[FAA Leader Quit Before D.C. Plane Crash—Thanks to Elon Musk](https://www.yahoo.com/news/faa-got-rid-leader-d-165311806.html)** > > The world’s richest man apparently thought it was a good idea to bully the Federal Aviation Administration chief out of his job. The extent to which the FAA and all associated services were short-staffed due to Donald being all obsessed with white-male-only staffing, is yet to be nailed down. But Donald has to be dreading having that information come out. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9956 "2025-01-30T23:20:37Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > I bet he doesn’t want to talk about them because he doesn’t like Poles. > > But we’d ‘wet the sponges’. Promise. I expected someone to say something about mmy pun, but I have no idea wha this means. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9957 "2025-01-30T23:24:45Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I expected someone to say something about mmy pun, but I have no idea wha this means. I was wondering, too. “Wet the sponges” to me conveys a reference to _The Green Mile_ (in which a sadistic guard basically tortured a man being executed by electrocution, by neglecting to wet the sponge that normally goes on the prisoner’s head.) But I could be wrong about that. (“Poles” in that context would be something to do with the electricity going through the condemned person’s body, maybe.) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9958 "2025-01-30T23:40:55Z")
[The movie scene says it all.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OB7BSXhReA&rco=1) I’m not sadistic though. I’d wet the sponges. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9959 "2025-01-31T01:21:24Z")
We are in serious danger here of veering into something involving electric boats and sharks. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9960 "2025-01-31T01:32:32Z")
Electric boats powered by windmills. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/9961 "2025-01-31T02:16:01Z")
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