# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1341 "2022-05-11T08:32:02Z")
Well, his defense, like several before him, is that he was the guardrail. Why, without him in place, Trump might have tried to overturn the election. Couldn’t he have volunteered to tell all these stories after Trump was no longer in office but before his own book? Well, I guess not and how dare anybody question his motives. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1342 "2022-05-11T12:12:16Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Couldn’t he have volunteered to tell all these stories after Trump was no longer in office but before his own book? What, you mean at the impeachment hearings? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1343 "2022-05-12T15:01:20Z")
So the Trump International Hotel is no more, which would go into the “schadenfreude” thread except that the Trump family managed to sell the lease for $375m. The federal government still owns the actual building. > **[Workers began tearing down the gold letters of the Trump International...](https://www.businessinsider.com/workers-tearing-down-trumps-dc-hotel-sign-hours-after-sale-2022-5?r=US&IR=T)** > > Workers could be seen dismantling the Trump International Hotel's sign on Wednesday night after a Miami investment group bought the lease. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1344 "2022-05-12T15:19:49Z")
No better example of something he bought (well, leased) strictly to graft off the presidency than this. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1345 "2022-05-12T16:25:34Z")
If only there was a bar from doing this sort of thing; say an emoluments clause or something. Our founding fathers could have put it in one of the articles of our constitution. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1346 "2022-05-12T16:31:03Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > If only there was a bar from doing this sort of thing; say an emoluments clause or something. Trump has no use for clauses, laws, or morals. Those are things lesser beings need to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1347 "2022-05-12T19:52:58Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > If only there was a bar from doing this sort of thing; say an emoluments clause or something. Our founding fathers could have put it in one of the articles of our constitution. Sad. Or that Trump hadn’t dragged things out so long that he was out of office by then and SCOTUS dismissed all such pending cases as moot. Even sadder. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1348 "2022-05-13T05:08:24Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > No better example of something he bought (well, leased) strictly to graft off the presidency than this. CREW calls it a “sinkhole of corruption”: > [@](#): > > On Wednesday, the advocacy group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, or Crew, [said](https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1524542403889274880): “The Trump Hotel in DC is no more. Good riddance to a sinkhole of corruption.” > **[‘Sinkhole of corruption’: Trump Organization sells Washington hotel](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/12/sinkhole-corruption-trump-organization-closes-sale-washington-hotel)** > > Ethics group and Democrats say questions remain, even as workers remove Trump’s name from Old Post Office building ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1349 "2022-05-13T11:39:31Z")
Well at least when he is re-elected he won’t be able to use it for grift. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1350 "2022-05-13T13:59:52Z")
We (and the press) should note that the Tangerine Turnip did not own the hotel or sell it. It was a lease from Government. Burns my ass because even reputable sites list him as owning it. Many of the properties baring his name are, in fact, just paying for the naming rights (seems stupid to me but it’s a way to grift the MAGAhats). ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1351 "2022-05-13T14:10:42Z")
He did own the hotel (the business entity known as the Trump International Hotel). He did not own the physical property the hotel operated from. He has sold the hotel (business) to a group that will plans to put it under the Waldorf-Astoria brand of hotels. They will also not ‘own’ the hotel (physical property) but will indeed ‘own’ the hotel (the Waldorf-Astoria or whatever they end up re-naming the business). If they choose to vacate and move next door, they would still ‘own’ the hotel as a business AND still not own the physical location. It’s one of those weird bits of semantics where the word ‘hotel’ is being used in two slightly different ways for both the business (which he did own) and the physical property (which he did not). ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1352 "2022-05-13T15:34:28Z")
Whoever bought that lease is sitting on a goldmine. All manner of Republican-affiliated groups seem to hold events there, and Saudi government officials just love the place… money seems to be no object for them on rooms and catering. It can be hard to build up a base of loyal customers but the new management team will actually start with that advantage built-in. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1353 "2022-05-13T17:26:49Z")
Sounds like this sort of investment strategy [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3w5D9yJUMOc/hqdefault.jpg "Homer's Pumpkin investment.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w5D9yJUMOc) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1354 "2022-05-13T17:52:51Z")
> [@Borborygmi](#): > > Whoever bought that lease is sitting on a goldmine. All manner of Republican-affiliated groups seem to hold events there, and Saudi government officials just love the place… Do you really think foreign lobbyists will continue spending money at a hotel Trump doesn’t own anymore? The Saudis didn’t even bother to occupy the rooms they paid for most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1355 "2022-05-13T18:01:48Z")
I think you’ve been whooshed. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1356 "2022-05-13T18:12:22Z")
Maybe. So hard to tell anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1357 "2022-05-13T20:16:49Z")
“I’ve always been pretty cynical, but these days even I have a hard time keeping up.” - Lily Tomlin ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1358 "2022-05-16T13:46:53Z")
Not Trump, but one of the Trumplings Donald Trump, Jr. as The Great MAGA Prince. I kid you not > **[Trump, Don Jr., Imagine Themselves MAGA 'Royalty' In Cringey Memes](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-maga-king-prince-embarrassing-memes-biden_n_62819d6ae4b04353eb06284b)** > > A couple of royal wannabes. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1359 "2022-05-16T23:16:26Z")
Pretending to be Aragorn is OVER THE LINE! 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1360 "2022-05-16T23:46:35Z")
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