# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1661 "2022-07-29T20:54:22Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > …a rival golf tour that – contrary to the PGA – is holding an event on his golf course. And which I believe he is going to play in, at least the pro-am part. It would be interesting to see how he plays golf when there are cameras on him. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1662 "2022-07-29T21:32:53Z")
He’d cheat. He’d be called on it. Video would be shown. Trump would say, ‘No, I didn’t! You just hate me, so you’re making it up!’ ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1663 "2022-07-29T21:51:10Z")
I think it’s more likely that, as part of the deal to host a tournament at his course, the cameras are forbidden to film him except when he’s hitting. Not that anyone would ever admit to that clause. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1664 "2022-07-30T05:22:32Z")
And I would not be surprised in the least if he claimed: > Yeah, the Saudis helped murder only 3,000 Americans, but you know not all of them were Americans, at least not real Americans. But anyway, I got a million people killed on my watch. And that’s the best watch. Like a Rolex. A million Rolex, a million dollar Rolex. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1665 "2022-07-30T12:22:46Z")
🤣 You’ve been taking **Smapti** lessons, haven’t you? They’re paying off. ---
**Author:** ![StraightTalk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straighttalk/32/9982_2.png) [@StraightTalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StraightTalk)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1666 "2022-07-30T20:15:28Z")
Has he had a stroke? No? Well, then, he’s still pissing me off. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1667 "2022-07-30T21:21:58Z")
Individual 1’s Department of Homeland Security watchdog put a stop to the recovery of the Secret Service’s text messages. > **[Trump's Homeland Security Watchdog Scuttled Efforts To Recover Secret Service...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/homeland-security-secret-service-text-recovery_n_62e4cb1fe4b006483a9db3b6)** > > A plan was in the works to collect phones and retrieve missing data, then suddenly dropped, sources told The Washington Post. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1668 "2022-07-30T21:35:59Z")
Ah. Now it’s clear. Since Ivana has been buried on Individual 1’s golf course, it’s now considered a cemetery, and under New Jersey law, it gets a tax break. > **[Ivana Trump buried near first tee at Trump National Golf Club](https://www.salon.com/2022/07/30/ivana-buried-near-first-tee-at-national-golf-club/)** > > Trump himself also plans to be buried there, stating it's his favorite property ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1669 "2022-07-30T23:07:01Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Ah. Now it’s clear. Since Ivana has been buried on Individual 1’s golf course, it’s now considered a cemetery, and under New Jersey law, it gets a tax break. - > [https://www.salon.com/2022/07/30/ivana-buried-near-first-tee-at-national-golf-club/](https://www.salon.com/2022/07/30/ivana-buried-near-first-tee-at-national-golf-club/) Yes, and that tax break, apparently, won’t be offset by any unnecessary spending to make Ivana’s gravesite attractive. Trump didn’t even go to the expense of watering the yellowed grass: > ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1670 "2022-07-31T00:43:42Z")
Wait, are me sure that it qualifies as a cemetery? Do we know for a fact that she’s buried 6 feet down and not just 2 ? Trump has a history of exaggerating measurements by a factor of 3. #StormyDanielsIsMyCite ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1671 "2022-07-31T00:53:25Z")
For a while there, **smapti** and I were both parodying the tangerine twerp’s bloviations. I think **smapti** ’s were better, but I thoroughly enjoyed both of ours efforts. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1672 "2022-07-31T01:37:01Z")
I cannot understand why in the name of anything whatever this pustule’s EX-wife wanted to be buried in his “family plot” in the first place. Personally, I would rather allow my corpse to be thrown naked and unidentified into a filthy alleyway for rats and cockroaches to eat than have it consigned to any property with Trump’s name even remotely associated with it. And I didn’t even spend any time married to the creep. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1673 "2022-07-31T01:44:50Z")
She was no doubt a loathsome person herself. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1674 "2022-07-31T01:59:56Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I cannot understand why in the name of anything whatever this pustule’s EX-wife wanted to be buried in his “family plot” in the first place. > > Personally, I would rather allow my corpse to be thrown naked and unidentified into a filthy alleyway for rats and cockroaches to eat than have it consigned to any property with Trump’s name even remotely associated with it. And I didn’t even spend any time married to the creep. - From her Wiki page. > Although this divorce was acrimonious due to Donald’s extramarital affair to actress [Marla Maples](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marla_Maples), the former couple eventually worked through their animosity and **once again became close friends up until her death in 2022** ; Ivana was actually **one of her ex-husband’s main advisors throughout his presidency and election campaigns.** ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1675 "2022-07-31T02:17:24Z")
I know I shouldn’t speak ill of the dead, but…. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1676 "2022-07-31T02:27:57Z")
As is so often the case in matters pertaining to the Trump family, I was happier when I didn’t understand some particular aspect of their loathsome behavior than when I do. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1677 "2022-07-31T02:30:38Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > She was no doubt a loathsome person herself. True, but she didn’t deserve to end up being a Leaky Depends rest stop at the first tee… ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1678 "2022-07-31T03:19:57Z")
If it’s a family plot, does that mean there are other family members already there or is she the first? Cause if she isn’t the first, wouldn’t they have already been getting a tax break? Just wondering out loud. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1679 "2022-07-31T03:56:19Z")
I heard Eric gets behind the gardening shed. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1680 "2022-07-31T06:14:42Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > _other_ than not having been born yet Do we know that? I for one have never seen his long form birth certificate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=83) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=85)