# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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He can’t release it because it’s being audited.

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But it will be ready in two weeks.

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> I cannot understand why in the name of anything whatever this pustule’s EX-wife wanted to be buried in his “family plot” in the first place. …

With these search terms I’m still not finding a reputable site confirming information about “her will” “executor of” or “Ivana Trump”.

There has been online talk to the effect that Donald is unlikely to have been the sole decision-maker on where Ivana was buried:

> <https://twitter.com/EBHarrington/status/1553545538477367296>

If Ivana did NOT specify that she wanted to be buried on a golf course, it’s possible that her children made that decision, and further possible that they did so according to their father’s tax-avoiding interests. Because that’s how things seem to roll in that family.

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Presumably from Individual 1’s Truth Social account today:  
[![](https://i.redd.it/jqat0a606ze91.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/jqat0a606ze91.jpg)

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I fear that Biden, as a public figure (if my non-lawyer self understand it correctly) cannot sue for that libel, but what about all the Wisconsin nursing home residents? Can’t they sue that worthless jackass Biden beat in the 2020 election?

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Trump is using the Presidential Seal all over his Bedminster NJ golf course during the Saudi-funded golf event, despite being told it was an ethics violation.

> **[Trump Using Presidential Seal To Boost Saudi Golf Tourney Despite Ethics...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-presidential-seal-saudi-arabia-liv-golf-tournament-khashoggi-911_n_62e44e5ce4b09d14dc42ad5a)**
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> Not only is Trump taking money in controversial Saudi "sport washing" event, now he's using the presidential seal which gives the impression of U.S. support.

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> In response to criticism for his lucrative participation in the operation, Trump on Thursday ripped the “maniacs who did that horrible thing” of 9/11, but insisted that “nobody’s gotten to the bottom of 9/11.”

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> [@](#):
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> …but insisted that “nobody’s gotten to the bottom of 9/11.”

Donald Trump was president. He had four years to get to the bottom of 9/11.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Donald Trump was president. He had four years to get to the bottom of 9/11.

He has astonishing information about 9/11 and will be revealing it in two weeks.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Donald Trump was president. He had four years to get to the bottom of 9/11.

That’s the reason for the golf tournament! He’s gonna get ‘em all in a room and go Columbo on them! Four-dimensional chess!

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What’s this “now” shit? He’s been doing that since he slunk out of office.

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The “now” is that he’s using it extensively around the golf event that’s ongoing, despite being told not to.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Trump is using the Presidential Seal all over his Bedminster NJ golf course during the Saudi-funded golf event, despite being told it was an ethics violation.
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> [Trump Using Presidential Seal To Boost Saudi Golf Tourney Despite Ethics Complaint | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-presidential-seal-saudi-arabia-liv-golf-tournament-khashoggi-911_n_62e44e5ce4b09d14dc42ad5a)

I’ve asked this question before – maybe even in this same thread – but … **Who’s responsible for enforcing this violation, and why aren’t they doing it?**

I’d start with a fine of $10,000 for each day the seals aren’t removed from the premises, with an extra $100,000 every time one of them appears on a broadcast. And if the club doesn’t pay, shut it down.

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I’ve asked this question before – maybe even in this same thread – but … **Who’s responsible for enforcing this violation, and why aren’t they doing it?**

It’s a federal crime.

> **[18 U.S. Code § 713 - Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United...](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/713)**

The Attorney General enforces it.

> **[18 U.S. Code § 2346 - Enforcement and regulations](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2346)**

> [@Akaj](#):
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> I’d start with a fine of $10,000 for each day the seals aren’t removed from the premises, with an extra $100,000 every time one of them appears on a broadcast. And if the club doesn’t pay, shut it down.

The law doesn’t specify the monetary amount of the fines, but it does say Trump can be imprisoned up to 6 months.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The law doesn’t specify the monetary amount of the fines, but it does say Trump can be imprisoned up to 6 months.

Oh, please. Oh, please!

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It isn’t income tax evasion, but it will do. 6 months per violation, served sequentially.

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I heard that the ti kets for the “event” were going for $1. I think a more fitting price would be 25 cents, as in “Trump is a two bit w----”.

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What did he do for four years?

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I just read that Ivana was cremated. If that’s true, what’s in that gold coffin they buried?

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I’d start with a fine of $10,000 for each day the seals aren’t removed from the premises, with an extra $100,000 every time one of them appears on a broadcast. And if the club doesn’t pay, shut it down.

I’d prefer to have a federal judge issue an injunction against continued operations at the course and send a team of U.S. Marshals to clear and seal the facility, ideally just as whatever headlining golf pro\* is about to tee off.

\*or Saudi royal backer. I’m flexible.

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