# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1801 "2022-08-09T12:29:34Z")
I can see in my mind the fundraising letter for a new safe. The best safe, hugely, gold plated, You don’t want the 45th President of the United States with a broken down/into safe, do you? Please donate what you can. Simply fill out the forms linking your life savings (do not do this - it’s parody) to my **MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN** account. Convenient plans include monthly, weekly, daily, hourly automatic withdrawal options. If you act now, President Trump will personally match 1000% of your donations. (do not do this - parody only). 100% of your donations after expenses, grift, and outright embezzlement will go to this purchase. Other items are for sale as well such as personal letters to various dictators, autographed notes from my meetings with Vlad, unretouched pee films, and retaped security briefing papers (with original water stains - not NFTs). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1802 "2022-08-09T14:00:17Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > with original water stains In tiny letters “MAY NOT BE WATER” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1803 "2022-08-09T14:17:57Z")
Ewww! Call in the hazmat teams. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1804 "2022-08-09T16:17:19Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Please donate what you can. Simply fill out the forms linking your life savings (do not do this - it’s parody) to my **MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN** account. _ **“YES, MASA!”** _ ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1805 "2022-08-09T16:36:42Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I thought that [the RNC was still paying the Mango Mussolini’s legal fees](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/rnc-trump-running-2024-legal-bills) I think that that was his legal defense fees, this is legal offense fees. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1806 "2022-08-09T19:35:17Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > > [@smithsb](#): > > > > Please donate what you can. Simply fill out the forms linking your life savings (do not do this - it’s parody) to my **MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN** account. > > _ **“YES, MASA!”** _ **M** ake **A** merica **S** afe and **S** ecure **A** gain. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1807 "2022-08-09T23:24:18Z")
There’s also the attempt to restrict voting rights, uh, I mean ensure election security, primarily throughout the South. (Don’t let all them minorities vote.) Make American Southerners Safe Again ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1808 "2022-08-10T00:45:34Z")
We’ve been talking about Oranganus tearing incriminating documents up, flushing them, doodling on them with sharpie but we missed the obvious, right there in front of us, it was genius. > **[Ivana Trump Laid To Rest In A Gold Casket](https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/20/ivana-trump-funeral-gold-casket-donald-ivanka-eric/)** > > Seventy-three-year-old Ivana Trump was laid to rest Wednesday in New York City in a gold casket. [https://colorsofindia.media/world/united-kingdom/pictured-ivana-trumps-final-resting-place-in-the-private-10-person-plot-on-trumps-golf-course/](https://colorsofindia.media/world/united-kingdom/pictured-ivana-trumps-final-resting-place-in-the-private-10-person-plot-on-trumps-golf-course/) Feel free to join me on a hell in handbasket tour soon! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1809 "2022-08-10T01:23:45Z")
I’m imagining the statement read in the voice of Mark Hamill as the Joker. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1810 "2022-08-10T02:24:00Z")
Individual 1 lawyer accuses the FBI of planting evidence at Mar a Lago. > ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1811 "2022-08-10T02:25:08Z")
And it won’t be the last time… ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1812 "2022-08-10T02:32:46Z")
They must have _really_ found something. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1813 "2022-08-10T02:33:45Z")
I love a Twitter comment: “FBI raids home of Epstein linked Clinton donor”. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1814 "2022-08-10T02:52:52Z")
It’s all about the grift. > ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1815 "2022-08-10T10:44:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I love a Twitter comment: “FBI raids home of Epstein linked Clinton donor”. Especially right after Don Jr tweeted about the judge being an “Epstein-linked Obama donor”. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1816 "2022-08-10T16:02:19Z")
Trump quotes on the Fifth Amendment: > “You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” > “Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.” > When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful. Today: > “Under the advice of my counsel and for all of the above reasons, I declined to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the United States Constitution,” Trump said in a statement. [https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/10/politics/trump-deposition-ny-attorney-general/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/10/politics/trump-deposition-ny-attorney-general/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1817 "2022-08-10T16:05:34Z")
I didn’t think you could take the Fifth in civil actions? Or is this a criminal case? I’m confused. From the article linked above: > NEW YORK — Former president Donald Trump arrived at the office of the New York attorney general Wednesday morning to give sworn testimony in a long-running civil probe of his business dealings, specifically his representations to lenders and tax agencies about the value of his assets. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1818 "2022-08-10T16:08:50Z")
Yes, you can plead the fifth in a civil case: [_McCarthy v. Arndstein_ (1924)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9350142188359676460) ETA: However, a defendants refusal to testify CAN be used against them in a civil case, unlike in a criminal case, where it cannot. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1819 "2022-08-10T16:12:36Z")
Okay, maybe this will help… (gift link) > **[Tracking the Trump investigations and where they stand](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/29/trump-investigations-litigation/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjYyMDc3NTgiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjYwMTQ3NjgyLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjYxMzU3MjgyLCJpYXQiOjE2NjAxNDc2ODIsImp0aSI6IjYxMzIxNGVkLWUzNzQtNDM2OS05MTg2LWI1ZTZkYjk3OTQxOCIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy8yMDIyLzA0LzI5L3RydW1wLWludmVzdGlnYXRpb25zLWxpdGlnYXRpb24vIn0.zFjGdQ3FP_5kNXg34LVZ1-lc_BhspRdMs7VIjF8Qwbg&itid=gfta)** > > Former President Donald Trump has been indicted in four cases — all while leading the Republican field in the 2024 presidential race. Here's the latest news on each. Article goes into detail on each one of these: - What is it - Where it stands - What’s at stake - What’s next > Justice Department criminal probe of Jan. 6… > > Georgia election results investigation… > > The Jan. 6 select committee’s investigation… > > The Mar-a-Lago boxes investigation… > > Trump business practices, criminal and civil probes in New York… > > Westchester, N.Y., golf club… ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1820 "2022-08-10T16:19:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Trump quotes on the Fifth Amendment: “I once asked, ‘If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?’” Trump wrote. “Now I know the answer to that question. When your family, your company, and all the people in your orbit have become the targets of an unfounded, politically motivated Witch Hunt supported by lawyers, prosecutors, and the Fake News Media, you have no choice.” > **[Trump takes the 5th, refuses to answer questions in probe of his business...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-takes-the-fifth-refuses-to-answer-questions-in-probe-of-his-business-dealings-154622252.html)** > > Former President Donald Trump did not answer questions from the New York attorney general’s office about his business dealings during a deposition Wednesday, invoking his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=90) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=92)