# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1861 "2022-08-14T13:20:04Z")
> [@dolphinboy](#): > > I also blame the electoral college. Nobody should lose the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes and still become president under any circumstances. That’s not a democracy; that’s a bogus, outmoded, and outdated electoral system. One thing that would help is to expand the House of Representatives. Based on the population of Wyoming (580K) and the US (329.5M), there should be 566 members to make it truly and equally representative. The new seats won’t all be progressive/Dem, but they will go mostly to the big states, and there presumably are limits to the gerrymandering that even this SCOTUS would support. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1862 "2022-08-14T14:31:46Z")
As of a few years ago, SCOTUS is now out of the business of reviewing legislative district line-drawing entirely. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1863 "2022-08-14T19:19:03Z")
> [@](#): > > # Trump ‘Respectfully’ Requests FBI Returns Seized Documents To Mar-A-Lago > > The former president also slammed the FBI as “corrupt” for confiscating the material. Some of it was marked as classified and top secret, according to a warrant. > > … > > Former President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) on Sunday publicly requested that documents seized from his Florida resort and home during a federal search this past week be returned, claiming that it includes confidential attorney and client communications. > > “Oh great! It has just been learned that the [FBI](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/fbi), in its now famous raid of Mar-a-Lago, took boxes of privileged ‘attorney-client’ material, and also ‘executive’ privileged material, which they knowingly should not have taken,” he posted on his [social media site, Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/108821201066287577). > “By copy of this TRUTH, I respectfully request that these documents immediately returned [sic] to the location from which they were taken. Thank you!” he wrote. > > Trump appeared to be citing a [Fox News report](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-seizes-privileged-trump-records-during-raid-doj-opposes-request-independent-review-sources) late Saturday that claimed, citing sources close to the investigation, that the material confiscated from his property includes documents covered by attorney-client privilege and “potentially executive privilege.” > **[Trump 'Respectfully' Requests FBI Return Seized Documents To Mar-A-Lago](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-requests-seized-documents-return-mar-a-lago_n_62f91740e4b0526eaeeb9e70)** > > The former president also slammed the FBI as "corrupt" for confiscating the material. Some of it was marked as classified and top secret, according to a warrant. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1864 "2022-08-14T19:27:38Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > The former president also slammed the FBI as “corrupt” for confiscating the material. Sounds like a “respectful” request. From someone who knows as much about respect as he does empathy and honesty. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1865 "2022-08-14T19:30:28Z")
Chump is simply throwing all the sit he can onto the wall and seeing if anything sticks. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1866 "2022-08-14T19:43:29Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Chump is simply throwing **all the sit he can** onto the wall and seeing if anything sticks. - That just shows he’s not going to stand for it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1867 "2022-08-14T19:43:56Z")
What the hell is “by copy of this TRUTH” supposed to mean? It sounds like a SovCit magical phrase. Or is a “truth” their equivalent of a tweet? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1868 "2022-08-14T19:46:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > That just shows he’s not going to stand for it. Alas! I’m so upset that I’ve lost my H ability. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1869 "2022-08-14T20:26:42Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > What the hell is “by copy of this TRUTH” supposed to mean? It sounds like a SovCit magical phrase. > > Or is a “truth” their equivalent of a tweet? It means he won’t be paying a lawyer to make an official request. He’ll just make noise. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1870 "2022-08-14T23:49:58Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > What the hell is “by copy of this TRUTH” supposed to mean? I am guessing that refers to a single message sent out on Truth Social; its version of a Tweet. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1871 "2022-08-15T00:32:53Z")
It’s like a “pinky swear”. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1872 "2022-08-15T01:34:23Z")
This is code for his supporters that he actually pecked this message with his tiny fingers whilst sitting on his golden throne. Unlike some of the claptrap usually put out by staffers in his name that include punctuation, grammar, spell checks, and bigly words; the finest words. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1873 "2022-08-15T01:52:15Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > I am guessing that refers to a single message sent out on Truth Social; its version of a Tweet. > [@dougrb](#): > > It’s like a “pinky swear”. Those are really nice TILs. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1874 "2022-08-15T12:10:55Z")
Here’s what Trump’s claims that he had a “standing order to declassify documents removed” (and similar pronouncements) make me thing of: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/djl-oBgddQ8/maxresdefault.jpg ""Ickity Ackity Oop... It's yours" genie's spell dance") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djl-oBgddQ8) > **[Why Trump’s new ‘declassified’ claim is so hard to take seriously](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-new-declassified-claim-hard-take-seriously-rcna43084)** > > Team Trump suddenly remembered a previously undisclosed “standing order” about a declassification process for which there is no paper trail? C’mon. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1875 "2022-08-15T13:29:13Z")
> [@](#): > > [MSNBC](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/msnbc) host [Mehdi Hasan](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/mehdi-hasan) advised [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) and his allies Sunday that the law doesn’t work quite the way they claim it does. > > … > > Hasan showed a clip of Kash Patel, a former Trump administration official, [declaring on Fox Business](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/kash-patel-claims-trump-can-literally-stand-over-a-set-of-documents-and-say-these-are-now-declassified/) earlier Sunday that Trump “can literally hand over a set of documents and say ‘these are now declassified.’” > > … > Presidents [can declassify certain information](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-allies-say-declassified-mar-lago-documents-experts-say-unclear-w-rcna42311), but there is a formal process for doing so, and it is not clear whether Trump followed it. > > “Sorry Kash Patel, Trump appointee turned children’s book author,” Hasan said. “A sitting president can’t just say ‘I declassify you’ while waving his hands over a file folder. It doesn’t work that way.” > **[MSNBC's Mehdi Hasan Has A Newsflash For Trump On How The Presidency Works](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mehdi-hasan-trump-fbi-classified_n_62f9e033e4b0ab35e0b43529)** > > "A sitting president can't just say 'I declassify you' while waving his hands over a file folder." ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1876 "2022-08-15T13:52:50Z")
> If Trump, while in office, had declassified the materials in question, there’d be some kind of record of it. There was a record of it, but Trump tore it up and flushed down the toilet. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1877 "2022-08-15T13:58:16Z")
In the MSNBC article: > The former president and his team aren’t pointing to documentation from the National Security Council or the White House counsel’s office; they’re simply asserting that materials were declassified, as if we’re supposed to take their word for it. Goddam bureaucratic procedures. I tell ya, it’s stuff like this that stifles America. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1878 "2022-08-15T14:18:23Z")
What documents? We gave you all the documents back in Jan. We gave you all the documents back in Jun. How dare you come and get the documents we don’t have in Aug. Those documents are declassified. Yes, those, the ones we didn’t have. Also all the documents the FBI planted; those are declassified too [whatever is in them]. Hilary, emails, Benghazi, Soros, BLM, Antifi, CRT, Obama ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1879 "2022-08-15T14:20:05Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Hilary, emails, Benghazi, Soros, BLM, Antifi, CRT, Obama Don’t forget [Hunter.](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/gop-flock-to-defend-trump-in-wake-of-mar-a-lago-search) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1880 "2022-08-15T15:52:56Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > What documents? > We gave you all the documents back in Jan. > We gave you all the documents back in Jun. > How dare you come and get the documents we don’t have in Aug. > Those documents are declassified. Yes, those, the ones we didn’t have. Also all the documents the FBI planted; those are declassified too [whatever is in them]. - I demand you give the documents that I didn’t have back to me! By this TRUTH, I command you! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=95)