# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1941 "2022-08-18T22:37:20Z")

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Very interesting DesertDog.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> > [@SunUp](#):
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> > Russia has spy satellites in orbit. I’m sure they have found out the location of every single missile silo the United States owns, and have for many years, to just about any level of accuracy you could wish. China, ditto.
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> More likely, Trump has the names of covert sources in Russia that he would threaten to expose if prison looms.

Yes, this. Trump is likely to have stolen classified documents that reveal not only our own agents, but the agents of our allies. (Not that he would have been capable of figuring out which documents to grab; it’s likely he had help in doing that.)

Donald Trump revealing US undercover assets and agents–for cash–was the premise of this short novel, by the way:

> [@DONALD the Employee: a comic novel of American politics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-the-employee-a-comic-novel-of-american-politics/808127):
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> [[image] ](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-06XJD28Gvq4/WnZCurAc-sI/AAAAAAAAAAY/wRVekZu7bmEIZQJId_HlqPVqMUxOvNscwCLcBGAs/s1600/Donald%2Bcover%2B300%2Bpx%2Bwide%2B2-2-18A.jpg)[http://donald.sirtespress.com/](http://donald.sirtespress.com/) Of interest to the many who follow American politics: this short comic novel on the current political scene. Long-ish excerpt is readable on the KDP sales page (which can be reached from the publisher’s page linked above; that’s my connection with this). [[image] ](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gZ1FMvhY1c8/WnZDld5EaDI/AAAAAAAAAAo/CwOEBkkzvNY9Fg2xZpzraLvfrHdhUfdoQCLcBGAs/s1600/SIRTES%2BPRESS%2B150%2Bx%2B225px%252C%2BA2.jpg) SIRTES, rearranged, of course, is RESIST.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Donald Trump revealing US undercover assets and agents–for cash–was the premise of this short novel, by the way:

I don’t think he will do it for cash. It’s leverage against prosecution, or to suppress whatever compromat Putin has on him. And there is something.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1944 "2022-08-18T23:24:45Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I don’t think he will do it for cash. It’s leverage against prosecution, or to suppress whatever compromat Putin has on him. And there is something. -

I think he’d go for all of that, if he thought he could get away with it.

After all, we’re all just cardboard cutouts in the Donald Trump Story (in his mind). The lives of undercover assets and agents would have as much reality to him as would a booger in Biff Tannen’s nose.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1945 "2022-08-18T23:28:05Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I think he’d go for all of that, if he thought he could get away with it…

This Atlantic article catalogues a bunch of them.

> **[The Donald J. Trump Guide to Getting Away With Anything](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/donald-j-trump-guide-getting-away-anything/671165/?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)**
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> The former president has a knack for avoiding consequences for his misbehavior.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> This Atlantic article catalogues a bunch of them.

That looks worth using up a view; great illustration!

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1947 "2022-08-18T23:47:00Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> The US had plans to trundle 50 Peacekeeper ICBMs around in [disguised boxcars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacekeeper_Rail_Garrison)

Soon after, Gallagher proposed the ICBMW. W for Winnebago. Good ole boys out on the road with a six-pack and a warhead.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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The railcars had four trucks under them, twice the usual number. It would have to a really beefed-up Winnie.

“Hey, Bubba! Hold my beer and watch _this!_”

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1949 "2022-08-18T23:55:17Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Good ole boys out on the road with a six-pack and a warhead.

_Just two good ol’ boys,_  
_Never meaning no harm._  
_That goofy Bo and Luke,_  
_Just a ridin’ on a nuke,_  
_And the warhead was armed._

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1950 "2022-08-19T04:43:25Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Hell, if you want to (and have the money), you can **BUY** one.
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> [http://www.siloworld.net/SITES%20FOR%20SALE/SitesForSale.htm](http://www.siloworld.net/SITES%20FOR%20SALE/SitesForSale.htm)

Missiles sold separately?

(Which, disturbingly, ties back into current news stories…)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1951 "2022-08-19T07:26:50Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> More likely, Trump has the names of covert sources in Russia that he would threaten to expose if prison looms.

And risk retaliation from Putin? The only way Tan the Conman to get out from under that dictator’s thumb is to publicly disclose something Putin has on him that is even more embarrassing than the pee tape and Tan the Conman won’t do that.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1952 "2022-08-19T12:56:03Z")

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Why would Putin retaliate against Trump for revealing American spies in Russia? More likely, he would give him a medal.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1953 "2022-08-19T13:18:52Z")

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Because obviously.

> **[CNN Exclusive: 'Ludicrous.' 'Ridiculous.' 'A complete fiction.': Former Trump...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/18/politics/trump-claim-standing-order-declassify-nonsense-patently-false-former-officials/index.html)**
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> In the days since the FBI seized classified and top secret documents from Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, the former President and his allies have claimed that Trump had a "standing order" to declassify documents he took from the Oval Office to the...

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Why would Putin retaliate against Trump for revealing American spies in Russia?

@Monty might be thinking of Russian assets that had been recalled from the US.

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Or still in the US.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/1956 "2022-08-20T13:53:02Z")

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> **[Trump Threatens 'Major Motion' Based On Fourth Amendment In FBI Mar-A-Lago...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/major-motion-fourth-amendment-donald-trump-truth-social_n_6300579be4b0f72c09d7aa40)**
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> Trump claims his rights have been "violated in a level rarely seen before in our country."

> …  
> “A major motion pertaining to the Fourth Amendment will **soon** be filed concerning the illegal Break-in of my home, Mar-a-Lago, right before the ever important Mid-Term elections,” Trump wrote in a post on his social media platform, [Truth Social](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/truth-social).
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> “My rights, together with the rights of all Americans, have been violated in a level rarely seen before in our County,” he added.
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> “The greatest Witch Hunt in USA history has been going on for six years, with no consequences to the scammers.”  
> …

My bold.

🥱

In two weeks.

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At first I saw “major motion” and was sure that was going to be “major motion _picture_.” No such luck.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
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Christ. The asshole ignored a subpoena and him or one of his flunkies signed that there were none left. It would be a law artist who could come up with a refutation for all that.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> with no consequences to the scammers

Not yet but I’m hoping you get charged soon.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> A major motion…

Break out the Ex-Lax and the toilet plungers!!

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> “A major motion pertaining to the Fourth Amendment will **soon** be filed concerning the illegal Break-in of my home, Mar-a-Lago, right before the ever important Mid-Term elections,” Trump wrote in a post on his social media platform, [Truth Social](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/truth-social).

The motion would rise or fall based on the affidavit supporting the search warrant. (which neither Trump nor his lawyers has seen yet).

I would wager it’s a pretty damning document that he won’t like seeing in the public domain. Sooner or later, we’ll see it. I’m hoping sooner.

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