# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 119
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2369 "2025-09-27T19:39:11Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > This has the obvious implication that if about half of the workers are “non-essential” we should get rid of them and save the government money. A better term would have been “time-sensitive”. They are workers who jobs won’t have immediate implications if they take a couple of weeks off, but that doesn’t mean they are superfluous. That’s an excellent point. Maybe lobby to have it added to the “Project 2029” document that some Democrats are talking about creating…? > [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Trump: Rigged election. \*points to Erdogan\* He knows about rigged elections better than anybody. > > [https://x.com/Acyn/status/1971239367172817119](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1971239367172817119) ^(From Acyn tweet.) That’s a LOL! > [@JohnT](#): > > THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!! Here I’d thought that Gavin Newsom had cured Donald of this. And he did stop using it for a few weeks. Sad to see the relapse. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2370 "2025-09-27T21:12:59Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > A big fuck you to whichever person however many decades ago decided to term the two classes of government workers who would or would not be furloughed “essential” and “non-essential”. This has the obvious implication that if about half of the workers are “non-essential” we should get rid of them and save the government money. A better term would have been “time-sensitive”. They are workers who jobs won’t have immediate implications if they take a couple of weeks off, but that doesn’t mean they are superfluous. If money is tight at the end of the month getting your oil changed may not be essential in the same way as buying your meds, but that doesn’t mean getting your oil changed is a waste of money. When I was working for the Social Security Administration there were several times when there was a government shutdown which resulted in most federal employees being furloughed. With one exception, however, I continued to work because there was no way anything would be done that might interfere with Social Security benefits going out. While the term used at that time was “essential worker”, I agree that “time-sensitive” would have been a more appropriate term. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2371 "2025-09-27T22:46:31Z")
Hah! Good One! 😄 ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2025, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2372 "2025-09-28T04:35:00Z")
I was semi-essential. Due to my career program, I carried a Tippy Top Secret clearance. I’d be told to not leave town and check in periodically during the day 😠 We’d go to the Redstone Arsenal golf course and play all day. Tough job, have to come in once a day or every other day to read a message. Always ended up getting full pay for the short closures. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2373 "2025-09-29T04:45:02Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > This has the obvious implication that if about half of the workers are “non-essential” we should get rid of them and save the government money. When we were furloughed during the pandemic, out of hundreds of IT folks at my agency, one was “essential”. Literally one person. I guarantee you that if you decided that meant the agency only needed one IT person to support thousands of other employees, it would not go well. (I suspect that around 1% of my whole agency was “essential” at the time; probably less than 1% as we were effectively shut down during it.) ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2374 "2025-10-01T00:04:34Z")
While checking my email for any guidance regarding the shut down I got the following missive from the HHS news feed. > HHS Employees, > > President Trump opposes a government shutdown, and strongly supports the enactment of H.R. 5371, which is a clean Continuing Resolution to fund the government through November 21, and already passed the U.S. House of Representatives. Unfortunately, Democrats are blocking this Continuing Resolution in the U.S. Senate due to unrelated policy demands. If Congressional Democrats maintain their current posture and refuse to pass a clean Continuing Resolution to keep the government funded before midnight on September 30, 2025, federal appropriated funding will lapse. > > A funding lapse will result in certain government activities ceasing due to a lack of appropriated funding. In addition, designated pre-notified employees of this agency would be temporarily furloughed. P.L. 116-1 would apply. > > The agency has contingency plans in place for executing an orderly shutdown of activities that would be affected by any lapse in appropriations forced by Congressional Democrats. Further information about those plans will be distributed should a lapse occur. This is a blatant violation of the Hatch Act, but I guess those rules don’t apply anymore, well they probably do for people promoting Democats but definately not for Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2375 "2025-10-01T00:57:27Z")
Trump’s Secretary of War tells his career officers what their job is. > “You kill people and break things for a living.” [https://www.war.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/4318689/secretary-of-war-pete-hegseth-addresses-general-and-flag-officers-at-quantico-v/](https://www.war.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/4318689/secretary-of-war-pete-hegseth-addresses-general-and-flag-officers-at-quantico-v/) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2376 "2025-10-01T01:13:16Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > “You kill people and break things for a living.” My dad was in the 7th Fleet. Their motto is ‘[Ready Power for Peace](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/United_States_Seventh_Fleet_insignia%252C_2011.png/1200px-United_States_Seventh_Fleet_insignia%252C_2011.png)’. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2377 "2025-10-01T18:21:44Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump’s Secretary of War tells his career officers what their job is. > > > “You kill people and break things for a living.” Do they give out a Noble Prize for that? (I know it’s the Nobel Prize, but I’ve too many Stupid Republicans pronounce it as “noble”, so I figure maybe it’s a different prize that the Embarrassment-in-Chief wants.) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2378 "2025-10-01T18:37:59Z")
Trump things that it would make him a ‘Noble’ person. Not that he can define that. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2379 "2025-10-01T18:38:13Z")
For those of you who don’t know, this (killing people and breaking things for a living) was Rush Limbaugh’s description of what the military was used for. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2380 "2025-10-01T18:45:36Z")
That makes sense, Hegseth also said he wanted to turn the clock back to 1990, when the military was presumably more manly and unconstrained by wokism and leftist weakness. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2381 "2025-10-01T21:56:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > For those of you who don’t know, this (killing people and breaking things for a living) was Rush Limbaugh’s description of what the military was used for. What it’s used for–sure. That doesn’t mean that people who join up see ‘killing people and breaking things’ as their own goals, though. Plenty of veterans have been voicing disgust at this unwelcome definition (at least on Bluesky and Reddit Military). Many who join the military are much less interested in embracing brutality and nihilism, than Trump, Hegseth, and Limbaugh would like. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2382 "2025-10-01T22:01:43Z")
Not to mention: committed to their oath to the United States Constitution and not to whoever just happens to be President right now. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2383 "2025-10-01T22:11:16Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not to mention: committed to their oath to the United States Constitution and not to whoever just happens to be President right now. . Yes, I think that’s holding true for the majority of officers (at least) for now. Three years from now, though…after Hegseth has been allowing promotions only of True Donald Believers… ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2384 "2025-10-01T22:48:22Z")
[_L’état, c’est moi._](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'%C3%89tat,_c'est_moi) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2385 "2025-10-01T23:02:06Z")
Lie detectors should weed out those who are insufficiently loyal to his Cheetoness. > Under Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, the Pentagon plans to require that some staff sign NDAs that prohibit the “release of non-public information without approval or through a defined process” and subsequently take random polygraph tests, according to a draft memo from Deputy Defense Secretary Steve Feinberg reviewed by The Washington Post. > **[Hesgseth plans to introduce NDAs and random lie detector tests: report](https://www.aol.com/articles/hesgseth-ramps-war-against-leakers-220346905.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJMTHVBzXSjubwomcb6rMV3fVzE61IwFt7qXbmDaI8HTRuBuMfFjx_QmZJVMANzheTC8RcthI1JoELwwIG8Ec6L41JpNZyr76jaxPK_MkxnkkjAJq515nnxtiZ4RhbWQ-AnPHSCJptsJW2O9BkeOHEBbrP__GvQwLQ7OvMvMB-_R)** > > Defense Secretary ordered hundreds of admirals and generals to a meeting in Quantico, Virginia earlier this week ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2386 "2025-10-02T12:14:20Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > I know it’s the Nobel Prize, but I’ve too many Stupid Republicans… There is a UK English word: nobble > [@](#): > > nobble /ˈnɒbl/ > > _verb_ > > informal•British English > > 1. > 1. try to influence > > “an attempt to nobble the jury” > > Similar: > > bribe > > corrupt > > suborn > > buy > > buy off > > pay off > > get at > > induce > > lure > > entice > > grease someone’s palm > > oil someone’s palm/hand > > influence > > persuade > > win over > > secure someone’s support > > sway > > swing > > affect > > control > > manipulate > > 1. > 1. > > obtain [dishonestly]- > > steal. > > “he intended to nobble Rose’s money” I reckon Tangerine Temper Tantrum deserves a Nobble Prize, he excels in many of those definitions. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2387 "2025-10-02T13:48:57Z")
Trump tried to confiscate the sword that belonged to General Dwight D Eisenhower from the Eisenhower Presidential Library. The director of the library refused to provide it. He has now been fired. > Those sources say that earlier this year, the State Department contacted the Eisenhower Library to ask for the item—a sword of Eisenhower’s1 that belongs to the U.S. government—for Trump to give to the king, and Arrington declined; under federal law and agency regulations, he could not provide it. According to sources, that upset Byron, who, they say, began to look for an opportunity to remove Arrington. > > Without being able to get an original sword from the library, Trump eventually gave the king a replica of Eisenhower’s West Point Officer’s Sabre. > **[EXCLUSIVE: NARA Ousts Eisenhower Library Director Over Proposed Trump Gift to...](https://lastcampaign.substack.com/p/exclusive-nara-ousts-eisenhower-library)** > > The director, a historian and Army veteran, declined to allow the Trump administration to remove a priceless artifact from the library's permanent collection ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2388 "2025-10-02T21:54:14Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump tried to confiscate the sword that belonged to General Dwight D Eisenhower from the Eisenhower Presidential Library. The director of the library refused to provide it. He has now been fired. I’d say I’m second to none in my disrespect for Donald. But he still manages to surprise me, sometimes. His depth of contempt for the concept of “IT’S NOT YOURS, DONALD” is unfathomable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=118) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=120)