# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2569 "2025-10-29T18:14:13Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> To paraphrase, - “My wife shot me 3 times, and then I thought I should probably leave her”.

Three _different_ times.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2570 "2025-10-29T20:34:26Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Three _different_ times.

Yup. The GOP is basically going through spousal abuse. BUT they, themselves have become the abuser of themselves.

It’s self harm, but they don’t understand why they are bleeding when they cut themselves.

I would almost feel sorry for these morons if they where not drilling holes in the boat that we are ALL IN.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> **[DOJ indicts Democratic congressional candidate Kat Abughazaleh over ICE protests](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-indicts-democratic-congressional-candidate-kat-abughazaleh-ice-pro-rcna240584)**
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> Abughazaleh called the charges "yet another attempt by the Trump administration to criminalize protest and punish those who dare to speak up."

> The indictment, which was filed Oct. 23, alleges that Abughazaleh "physically hindered and impeded” an agent who was "forced to drive at an extremely slow rate of speed to avoid injuring any of the conspirators.” Abughazaleh was charged alongside five other people, including [two other political candidates.](https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/29/kat-abughazaleh-conspiracy-indictment-broadview-protests-donald-trump-deportation-campaign)
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> She faces one count of conspiracy along with one charge alleging that she “forcibly impeded, intimidated, and interfered” with an officer.

If peaceful protest is punishable, should protesters remain peaceful?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> She faces one count of conspiracy along with one charge alleging that she “forcibly impeded, intimidated, and interfered” with an officer.

Am I wrong to want to see ICE officers testify in court how a 5’4” woman who cam’t weigh as much as nine stone dripping wet and [armed with nothing more powerful than a megaphone and some knitting needles](https://youtu.be/TGYdf0IacR8?si=7ePzbW1vLSGZK7vV) managed to “intimidate” them?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/S0IRbQzhGhw/maxresdefault.jpg "Democratic Candidate Thrown Hard To The Ground By ICE Agent") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0IRbQzhGhw)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2573 "2025-10-29T21:01:49Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Am I wrong to want to see DHS officers testify in court how a 5’4” woman who cam’t weigh as much as nine stone dripping wet and armed with nothing more powerful than a megaphone and some knitting needles managed to “intimidate” them?

It should be easy to convince a jury that these scared babies hiding behind masks are terrified by an assertive woman.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2574 "2025-10-29T21:14:12Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It should be easy to convince a jury that these scared babies hiding behind masks are terrified by an assertive woman.

“We where just following orders comes full circle.” Do NOT come down my street. I can’t believe this, but open carry is legal in Colorado. I’m thinking is all I’m saying.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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She “forced” an IcePrick to drive slowly. The nerve! And it’s right there in the complaint- force. She used force, I suppose.  
I hope the judge forces those ICE babies right out of the courtroom.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It should be easy to convince a jury that these scared babies hiding behind masks are terrified by an assertive woman.

Convince, yes.\* Find sympathy for not so much.

\*Hell, I’m convinced and I haven’t even watched the video yet.

ETA after watching: What’s ERO?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Convince, yes.\* Find sympathy for not so much.

I like the idea of a contemptuous, vindictive jury.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
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When you’ve hit rock bottom, there’s only one way to go: sideways!

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2579 "2025-10-30T00:10:53Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> ETA after watching: What’s ERO?

[Enforcement and Removal Operations](https://www.ice.gov/contact/field-offices#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Immigration,to%20ERO%20headquarters)

> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> When you’ve hit rock bottom, there’s only one way to go: sideways!

Now I’m imagining an Alexander Payne movie with Marco Rubio and Stephen Miller on a drunken Paso Robles wine trip. I’m hoping that Miller gets savaged by ostriches.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2580 "2025-10-30T00:21:57Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> What’s ERO?

EDIT: Ninja’d by **Stranger\_On\_A\_Train** ; only he came in with a cite, and I was making a guess.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Enforcement and Removal Operations

Ah. The American equivalent of Einsatzgruppe.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@DesertDog](#):
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> > Convince, yes.\* Find sympathy for not so much.
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> I like the idea of a contemptuous, vindictive jury.

I sure don’t. A jury is supposed to strive to be fair and impartial. There were plenty of contemptuous, vindictive juries back in the days of Jim Crow.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> A jury is supposed to strive to be fair and impartial.

When determining guilt. You don’t expect a jury to not be emotional when, say, deciding the fate of someone who quite clearly raped and murdered a child, do you?

“Fair and impartial” means not having prejudice. If evidence shows that a person’s actions are reprehensible, a juror can surely have negative feelings toward the accused.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/2584 "2025-10-30T05:06:22Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Three _different_ times.

I read that you were shot five times in the tabloids.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I read that you were shot five times in the tabloids.

“Snake Plisskin…I heard you were dead.”

Stranger

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I read that you were shot five times in the tabloids.

If you have ever been shot in the tabloids, man, that really hurts.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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More than being shot in the adenoids?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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Well, being shot in the Adenoid Hynkel is usually a_good_ thing. Just ask the [Jewish Barber](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032553/).

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