# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
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But shooting a man in the middle of his cadenza? It ain’t good form, you know.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
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> [@eschereal](#):
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> If you have ever been shot in the tabloids, man, that really hurts.

Close, but that’s not the canonical response.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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Now you bring canon into the fray? Is that even legal?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
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The line about being shot was from an old movie, bit I figured if any online site would recognize it, this would be the place.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > A jury is supposed to strive to be fair and impartial.
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> When determining guilt. You don’t expect a jury to not be emotional when, say, deciding the fate of someone who quite clearly raped and murdered a child, do you?
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> “Fair and impartial” means not having prejudice. If evidence shows that a person’s actions are reprehensible, a juror can surely have negative feelings toward the accused.

Certainly - but they’re supposed to do their very best not to, and to decide if the defendant is guilty or not guilty based only upon the law and the facts, not their emotions. And a jury doesn’t “decid[e] the fate” of a defendant, if by that you mean sentencing. Sentencing is the judge’s responsibility.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And a jury doesn’t “decid[e] the fate” of a defendant, if by that you mean sentencing. Sentencing is the judge’s responsibility.

A jury can recommend a sentence in some cases, but regardless, I’d argue that convicting or acquitting is determining a person’s fate far more than sentencing does. A jury can declare that a person is completely free and clear, while a judge has sentencing guidelines to adhere to.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Not an unreasonable point of view. But if you, or a loved one, were on trial, would you still “like the idea of a contemptuous, vindictive jury”? I wouldn’t, not ever, even if the person I hated most in the entire world was in the dock.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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In other court news:

> **[Trump DOJ Has HAD It With Prosecutors Who Think Showing Up At Barack Obama's...](https://abovethelaw.com/2025/10/trump-doj-has-had-it-with-prosecutors-who-think-showing-up-at-barack-obamas-house-with-guns-and-a-machete-is-some-kind-of-crime/?utm_campaign=Above%20the%20Law%20Daily&utm_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9Kn_f-RGUtas15lQeRwIxcC-5B8SFRH_nlE7ZvzHeqLLOWaFETMY5L-hF8Si56L5ojrNEUzCnFAQXMiTcO_-joheEA0g&_hsmi=387584436&utm_content=387584436&utm_source=hs_email)**
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> Prosecutors referred to January 6 as a riot... and that's a cardinal sin these days.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
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The shit for brains fucked over the soybean farmers and the tech industry so his pals could profit in the markets, then reverses direction to try to make himself out to be a fucking hero instead of the miserable failure that he is. The Chinese mopped the floor with this moron and he doesn’t even realize it.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
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I wonder if Trump has sunk deep enough into dementia that he really doesn’t realize that they’re mopping the floor with him?

His recent performance in Japan makes me think it is past time to make sure he never goes out without a keeper.

It’s a problem when dealing elderly relatives. Both my mother and my aunt are losing their grasp, and it’s painful to see. We don’t let either of them drive, and they have near constant assistance from home health aides. My mother is still managing her own money, and I worry about it.

I’d never dream of letting her run a country, and I think she’s more compos than Trump is.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5WvfEdYHtGM/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump, 79, Wanders Off While Meeting Japanese Prime Minister") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WvfEdYHtGM)

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Dementia Donnie and his band of ghouls, billionaires, and gutless corporate bribers:  
[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_66,w_100,c_scale,f_avif/v200/1406646c-cadd-48b9-9571-d650515250d7) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_66,w_100,c_scale,f_avif/v200/1406646c-cadd-48b9-9571-d650515250d7)

Elle could use a little grammar help but the idea is there.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Would this historic tree have been cut down if anyone other than Trump were in the White House right now? Given the East Wing debacle, I’m not sure I can take this at face value.

> **[Jackson Magnolia - The White House and President's Park (U.S. National Park...](https://www.nps.gov/whho/learn/historyculture/jackson-magnolia.htm)**

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The orange shitbag threw a 1920’s-themed big bash at White House South last night. This while millions are wondering where their next meal or paycheck is coming from. It has to be one of the most insensitive things he’s done so far. Oh, right. “Sensitivity” is woke. Also, millions more to fly his fat ass down there so he can play golf.

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If he wasn’t clearly suffering from the Dunning Kruger affect, I’d say he did it on purpose to rub it in other peoples faces. Actually, both options work.

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If he wasn’t clearly suffering from the Dunning Kruger affect, I’d say he did it on purpose to rub it in other peoples faces. Actually, both options work. .

Possibly the Great Gatsby theming was intended to show Donald’s ignorance of that book (and its outcome), and also to demonstrate WINNING!!!

To him a vulgar display of wealth is proof that Everything he does is Good and Right.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Possibly the Great Gatsby theming was intended to show Donald’s ignorance of that book (and its outcome), and also to demonstrate WINNING!!!

I’m morally certain that Donald Trump has never sat down and read an entire book—even ones with his name on the cover—in his entire life. He certainly has never read anything by F. Scott Fitzgerald and wouldn’t have the introspection to reveal how it might apply to him even if he did.

Stranger

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Oh, no doubt. Donald doesn’t do the ‘reading’ thing. Nor is he capable of appreciating irony.

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I wrote an email to the US Defense Dept re: their threatening Nigeria yesterday. Trump and Hegseth were making a bum rap about violence against Christians there. There have been no apparent increases in violence there, if they bothered to research Nigerian events and trends.

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> [@Eric1](#):
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> Trump and Hegseth were making a bum rap about violence against Christians there.

It’s just a way to attack Muslims. Have either one of those fools ever been in a church?

Not that I give a shit if they are ‘practicing’ Christians. I’m an atheist/agnostic myself.

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> [@Eric1](#):
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> if they bothered to research Nigerian events and trends.

As if. This is an administration that constantly lies and ignores factual information. This is an administration that pretends Canada is a major source of fentanyl imports, when it is factually NOT. They are operating from a pre-determined conclusion and are shielded from any facts, events or trends.

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