# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
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Quiz!

Elderly narcissist makes up a weak national security excuse to invade a much less powerful neighbor to grab their natural resources. He escalates totally without concern for international opinion, or the lives lost in the invaded nation and even his own military. Doing so ruins productive security agreements with allies, and creates mistrust from the rest of the world, setting his nation back decades, even risking any perceived economic advances he claims to have accomplished. Of course I’m talking about Putin, right? Right…?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
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> [@JohnT](#):
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> So, we’re pirates now?

Come friends who plow the sea  
Truce to navigation  
Take another station  
Let’s vary piracy  
With a little… _more piracy_?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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_“It is, it is a glorious thing to be a pirate king!”_

Except: NO KINGS!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
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[Privateering we will go!](https://youtu.be/2YDPsHznyRU)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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The great thing about piracy is that you only have to worry about the Pirate Code, and, “The code is more what you’d call ‘guidelines’ than actual rules.”

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3074 "2025-12-11T12:18:39Z")

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He threatens the ICC (International Criminal Court). He threatens veterans in Congress who remind the military about their obligations. He threatens the NY Times for questioning his health. Who is HE?  
None other than Don Snoreleone!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3075 "2025-12-11T12:35:39Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The great thing about piracy is that you only have to worry about the Pirate Code, and, “The code is more what you’d call ‘guidelines’ than actual rules.”

Don’t say that when [Captain Teague](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94zgZUY-38g&t=17s) is around.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3076 "2025-12-11T15:38:14Z")

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The Trump Gold Card has gone on sale. This thing is obscene on so many levels it’s disgusting.

At a time when Trump is turning away people from s–thole countries and actively deporting them, this gives him a way to get RICH people (even from s–thole countries) to give money to the US and get in.

It’s an official US government document, but it’s got his picture and name on it. There’s a long history of not putting living presidents on US currency (which Trump ignored recently with his Trump coin), and the onus is extended to things like stamps. But Trump, of course, doesn’t give a damn.

Naturally, it’s a GOLD card.

As the Maddowblog notes:

> As for the amount of money the program is expected to generate, the administration hasn’t offered any details (at least not lately), though earlier this year the president told reporters that, by his estimation, the program could generate “[$50 trillion](https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3lj3v4kne422y).”
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> In related news, this guy really isn’t good at math.
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> But that’s hardly the only problem. A [Bloomberg News report](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-26/golden-visa-passport-which-countries-offer-one-what-is-trump-s-gold-card), for example, noted that international law enforcement agencies have warned that programs like these “facilitate criminal activity and are riddled with corruption.” The same report added, “The European Commission, the EU’s executive branch, has warned for years that golden visa programs expose the bloc to money laundering and security risks.”

> **[‘Trump Gold Card’ goes on sale, offering visas for $1 million, sparking...](https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-gold-card-goes-on-sale-offering-visas-for-1-million-sparking-controversy)**
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> With legal fights on the way, those writing seven-figure checks shouldn’t assume their cards are coming soon.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3077 "2025-12-11T16:01:18Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> At a time when Trump is turning away people from s–thole countries and actively deporting them, this gives him a way to get RICH people (even from s–thole countries) to give money to the US and get in.

Once the check clears, we’ll fly you to El Salvador for FREE.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3078 "2025-12-11T16:12:18Z")

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Speaking of visas, you can visit the U.S. for up to 90 days without a visa… but there’s a catch.

> **[US could ask tourists for five-year social media history before entry](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo)**
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> The plan would affect people from countries, including the UK, who can fill out a form in lieu of a visa.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3079 "2025-12-11T16:46:15Z")

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Isn’t the United States almost unique in taxing world wide income of its citizens? Given that, why would a wealthy person want to acquire American citizenship rather than that of a tax haven?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3080 "2025-12-11T16:55:16Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [US could ask tourists for five-year social media history before entry](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo)

In other words, “Did you say anything naughty about Trump? Do you not love and adore him? Did you ever DARE to say you don’t love him?”

I’m really not on ‘Social Media’ at all. Except here I guess. No FB, no Instagram or whatever the X BS is. But it would be impossible to round up the information.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Given that, why would a wealthy person want to acquire American citizenship rather than that of a tax haven?

You’re expecting sensible, well considered policy?

But on a more practical note, I would the ones taking this option are looking for just the visa part for whatever reason (children born here, rich people wanting convenience, whatever). And probably include a fair number of people used to blatant corruption with no real intention of declaring their true incomes to the IRS, also ignoring that the IRS itself has been hobbled with respect to tax enforcement of the wealthy

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
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Damn!

It’s not just on his Golden Get Into Jail Free card that Trump has imposed his features. He’s doing it on National Park season passes:

> [The New York Times reported](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/climate/lawsuit-park-service-passes-trump.html):
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> > _An environmental group on Wednesday filed a lawsuit challenging the National Park Service’s plan to emblazon President Trump’s face on some annual passes to national parks starting Jan. 1._
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> > _The suit, filed in federal court in the District of Columbia by the Center for Biological Diversity, argued that it would violate federal law to put Mr. Trump’s visage on some of the passes, which have traditionally featured photos of scenic landscapes and wildlife._

> “Blotting out the majesty of America’s national parks with a close-up of his own face is Trump’s crassest, most ego-driven action yet,” Kierán Suckling, the executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity, told the Times.

> **[Trump-imposed changes at national parks faces swift pushback in Congress, courts](https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-imposed-changes-at-national-parks-faces-swift-pushback-in-congress-courts)**
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> If the White House hoped to these changes would go unnoticed or unchallenged, those hopes have been dashed.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3083 "2025-12-11T17:56:03Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> It’s not just on his Golden Get Into Jail Free card that Trump has imposed his features. He’s doing it on National Park season passes

And that’s what a narcissist thinks about. I don’t have a pass (got a county parks pass) but I would refuse anything with his ugly treasonous mug on it. I certainly would not carry it or keep it in my car.

I’m not a huge patriot or anything, the USA screws up plenty. But electing this … thing is so over the top that I just don’t know what to say.

The good news is that many decent folks will say no. The bad news is that Trump supporters will go destroy the parks.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3084 "2025-12-11T18:08:29Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> > But that’s hardly the only problem. A [Bloomberg News report](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-26/golden-visa-passport-which-countries-offer-one-what-is-trump-s-gold-card), for example, noted that international law enforcement agencies have warned that programs like these “facilitate criminal activity and are riddled with corruption.” The same report added, “The European Commission, the EU’s executive branch, has warned for years that golden visa programs expose the bloc to money laundering and security risks.”

Hell, that’s 90% of the appeal!

And why only a GOLD card? Oh, wait…that can only mean that there is a PLATINUM card coming down the pike, amirite?

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
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nevermind

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3086 "2025-12-11T18:25:41Z")

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off subject.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3087 "2025-12-11T19:29:24Z")

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Yep. SunWife and I get one every year, and this year we bought one that expires in September of next year.

But when we heard about this little stunt we bought another one last week that will take us through 2026. Because I could not stand the thought of having the guy’s mug on anything in my wallet.

And hopefully the suit will keep him from doing it again next year. (Who am I kidding? Some circuit court will take the appeal, schedule arguments for sometime next fall, and then find it moot when January 1, 2027 rolls around - meanwhile, his suckups in the Interior Department will declare his picture to have made the pass a huge success and put it on the 2027 passes as well.)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3088 "2025-12-11T19:35:38Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> Because I could not stand the thought of having the guy’s mug on anything in my wallet.

Well, you could sit on it. I guess that’s ok.

I have to work on my phrasing…

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