# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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Making America Grab Ass

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> DWFGIEARBTTTFG doesn’t roll off the tongue.

Dwarf Gear Butt-Fuck sounds quite catchy to me.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/310 "2025-03-22T11:47:21Z")

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I am glad we don’t have such inanity at my work. There is one person in particular who’s nickname is what everyone calls him, which is why it was the best way to look him up in outlook since hardly no one knew his actual birth name. And this was not someone with a different identity at birth, but just a nickname he has had all his life.

I wonder what the Jim’s (William), Sacha’s (Alexander) and Dick’s (William) that work in the government think. How are you supposed to know what they like to be called?

`//i\\`

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
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I went to the RealPoitics site on the link above just to find FOX: 49% so Trump will ignore that.

> Sir, “Great News! Harvard Harris puts your approval at 52% - the highest numbers”  
> (F47) "Write an X for me saying “Harvard University has given TRUMP high approval ratings.”

And that’s what we’ll see later on.

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/312 "2025-03-22T15:22:01Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> On top of all that, everything is “need-to-know”, whether or not you have a clearance.

Well I do not have a clearance, yet this is how I’d imagine/hope the meeting went if whatever is to come has to be done. I reckon if I’ve practically nailed the dialog and plans, the USA will know where to find me and inquire how I knew. Maybe I’m entirely off. I don’t know what can be done fast by Space-X. It’s not a matter of running out of air, like in Apollo 13 (do spot the reference to that mission below)

\*\*\* TOP DOUBLE-PLUS SECRET \*\*\*

Mr. Musk, As you know, this is on a “need to know basis”. In this endeavor the only cabinet officer who needs to know this is SecDef Hegseth, if he had bothered to show up today, (quickly stifled chuckles) Even the Vice President shall not yet be briefed unless the President decides to.

We need you to meet with your top aerospace engineers and discover weight lift capacities, what sort of warheads your rockets are capable of, how many each can each carry and can we launch [whatever number off Chinese Naval Ships × 4] missiles that shall hit and annihilate their targets in 10 to no less than 15 minutes in the approximate area of Taiwan.

And here’s what you need to know: The Department of Defence has what we call “Magic Pixie Dust” that each of your modded-rockets will be releasing and making your rockets entirely invisible to any antimissile defences China has. We need to sink a lot of ships. Make it priority to report back these parameters and feel for confidence in carrying through with them., from your team. A heroic man at NASA once said, “Failure is not an option.” That is entirely so from here on.

Then I’ll be briefing the President via the Cone of Silence.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/313 "2025-03-22T17:33:05Z")

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This: [**DOJ creating path for people with criminal convictions to own guns again**](https://www.nbc4i.com/news/washington-dc/doj-creating-path-for-people-with-criminal-convictions-to-own-guns-again/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJK-uJleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHbk7rPDUjgwXqA0YW7gtQSwD8syouiOnkce9YjKHrXNaQ2osU9C_7NxWbQ_aem_7WfNzedxttphCbF_wiRI0Q), not surprising, but definitely fucked up.

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> The Justice Department (DOJ) plans to create a process for those with criminal convictions to restore their gun rights … The interim rule … follows a February executive order … directing a review of the country’s gun restrictions to “assess any ongoing infringements.”  
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> DOJ said the rule “reflects an appropriate avenue to restore firearm rights to certain individuals who no longer warrant such disability based on a combination of the nature of their past criminal activity and their subsequent and current law-abiding behavior.” The notice also said that “no constitutional right is limitless” and that they would be “screening out others for whom full restoration of firearm rights would not be appropriate.”

So, men convicted of domestic violence would be fast-tracked for restoration by the have-you-beaten-your-wife-today administration, unless, of course, they fail the [pantone test](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/WY0WIc5RDr90qTBeYjxGb2h46d_ETx0LJ-CXTAhiAITarUuvSZs7RWTncp-TkJTaKWs3=w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu) (which excludes anyone from consideration, no matter the charge).

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Turns out that he intentionally released people’s social security numbers

This is off topic, so I don’t plan a hijack… but who cares? My ID number(s) in ZW and RSA are public. How useful is it to Joe Criminal to know a social security number?

Here, I guess attempted identity theft is a (far fetched) possibility, but you in the USA don’t use the social security numbers as ID, as far as I know.

We use photographic or biometric (at the bank) ID. My ID number is not only based on my date of birth, but on the Luhn algorythm, so it is pretty trivial to guess. Especially if you know my race

(South Africa stopped using digits signifying race some years ago, but mine is 8… white male)

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/315 "2025-03-22T19:06:55Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Here, I guess attempted identity theft is a (far fetched) possibility, but you in the USA don’t use the social security numbers as ID, as far as I know.

You are incorrect. in the US the SS# is used as a personal identifier in a wide variety of contexts and is one of the most valuable in terms of identity theft.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/316 "2025-03-22T19:30:46Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> How useful is it to Joe Criminal to know a social security number?

It is EXCEEDINGLY useful. Social security numbers are used in all manner of transactions as a universal identifier. Stealing someone’s SSN can result in an identity being stolen and used for all sorts of nefarious pecuniary purposes by thieves.

This is the reason that protection of SSNs is generally very tight in the U.S. Many institutions will allow you to confirm your identity after opening an account by just citing the last four digits of the nine-digit SSN; this is intended to protect the full number from possible theft. Of course, the DOGE morons now have access to all of our sensitive data; I suspect this won’t be the last time something like this happens.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/317 "2025-03-22T19:49:29Z")

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For our foreign posters, it’s probably worth clarifying that a SSN is not formal identification in the strictest legal sense. Your SS card alone would not be sufficient to identify you as a particular person for any dealings with the federal government.

But SSN is a de facto personal identifier accepted or even needed in many contexts to verify personal identity. So having it could be used to pose as another person to a bank or business or online and certainly could be abused to claim the identify of another.

When SSNs were first given out, they weren’t intended to become personal identifiers. But, since there was no national registry of citizens and since just about everybody has a SSN (excepting perhaps a few very, very old people on the margins of society), of course they became de facto identification numbers.

It’s one of those quirks of the US that don’t make a lot of sense to us, either.

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> You are incorrect.

In which case, I stand corrected. Thank you.

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> When SSNs were first given out, they weren’t intended to become personal identifiers. …

Somewhere in my lockbox I still have my original 1950s-era Social Security card (with the name filled in by a typewriter), and it has something like “Not used for identification” on the front in semi-large unfriendly letters. But by the 1960s things had evolved as the other posters have mentioned, where the first thing one was asked when trying to open an account with anything larger than the corner store was “What’s your SSN?”

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When dealing with any number of financial institutions, the most common way they confirm who I am is to ask for at least part of my SSN. It’s scary for that to get out.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/321 "2025-03-22T23:02:42Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> unless, of course, they fail the [pantone test](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/WY0WIc5RDr90qTBeYjxGb2h46d_ETx0LJ-CXTAhiAITarUuvSZs7RWTncp-TkJTaKWs3=w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu)

Heh. Somehow, I knew _exactly_ what imagine that link would show (I saw a clip of it not so long ago on YouTube).

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/322 "2025-03-22T23:38:30Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> (68% are “concerned”)

They’ll have to get in line behind Susan Collins.

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I had a scammer apply for a $30,000 loan from the Small Business Administration using my birthdate and Social Security number. I found out in a matter of hours when the SBA pulled my credit rating, and my ID protection flagged it. My credit reports are all locked now.

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I’m still shaking my head at the title of this thread.

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I wish to God there were no reason to be posting here _at all._

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I had a scammer apply for a $30,000 loan from the Small Business Administration using my birthdate and Social Security number.

Sorry to hear that, but this is what all those Trump doxxed in the “unredacted” release of JFK documents will be facing—because what was released was NOT just their SocSec numbers but also their dates of birth and also their cities of birth.

With these three pieces of information, basically, anyone could open accounts in the names of Trump’s victims.

> [@dougrb](#):
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> Changing the Tesla logo on your own car is now a misdemeanor.

Oh, honestly. No offence to those who bought Teslas years ago, but that logo has ALWAYS looked like a thong-on-a-butt. (I’ve seen graphics showing this but won’t link to any for reasons of taste.)

> [@romansperson](#):
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> Our national security and intelligence services are going to be severely compromised and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we see some big 9/11-level event at some point in this next 4 years.

I don’t think anyone would bet against that likelihood.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> that logo has ALWAYS looked like a thong-on-a-butt.

I always thought it looked like a thumbtack.

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