# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 169
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3369 "2026-01-20T00:31:03Z")
Note that they have invited Putin and Lukashenko (Belarus toady) to be on the board. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3370 "2026-01-20T00:36:51Z")
The most important question; will they cough up the billion dollars? ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3371 "2026-01-20T00:56:20Z")
I saw Keir Starmer give a press conference this morning. He didn’t say much directly about the sleeping giant fat-ass, mostly about EU and NATO unity. Basically the same thing, unless you want to consider Canada’s contributions to NORAD west-NATO. Maybe trump hasn’t said it aloud to the press, yet. Tariff’s and sanctions have proved useless at changing political thinking. Maybe he wants to wait for KCIII to come and celebrate Independence Day 250, when the British don’t even have a fourth of july. (How the fuck was that scheduled). Maybe let Hegseth announce that any - any armed flotilla that passed the longitude of Iceland will be sunk. That may or may not effect any of the teams of the World Cup withdrawmg. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3372 "2026-01-20T01:22:19Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The most important question; will they cough up the billion dollars? I suspect Donnie will give Vlad a pass. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3373 "2026-01-20T01:28:25Z")
Probably, yes. Putin agreeing to join the group gives it tremendous legitimacy. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3374 "2026-01-20T01:40:33Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Putin agreeing to join the group gives it tremendous legitimacy. He’s a peaceful guy. See? Name starts with P, and that stands for Peace! ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3375 "2026-01-20T01:45:10Z")
Ya got Peace! Peace right here in Gaza City. Peace with a capital P and that rhymes with T and that stands for Tool\*. \* you know… Donald Trump! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3376 "2026-01-20T03:00:41Z")
I can’t help but think of _The Nixorcist_ - Perfectly Clear (1974). **Nixon:** All I wanted was peace with honour. Who’ll give me ‘a piece with honour’ _now?_ ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3377 "2026-01-20T07:09:51Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Is this all a competition with each other? It could have sat on his 600 million and had more than a comfortable live with a couple of conservative investments. I think extremely rich people probably treat the accumulation of wealth in the same way a normal person may see a video game, trying to score as many ‘points’ as possible. There’s no real material effect on one’s life or comfort level, it’s just a challenge and something to aim for. An addiction. They must be tremendously miserable. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3378 "2026-01-20T07:23:05Z")
^^ This. Contented people are not searching for the next fix, financial or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3379 "2026-01-20T08:41:13Z")
Especially since excessive wealth often manifests in paying ludicrously exaggerated prices for prestige “luxury” brand mass-produced items that on some level they know are no better quality than similar mass-produced items costing orders of magnitude less. The money itself means nothing to them except point-scoring, as you say, but they can’t help knowing that they’re voluntarily stepping up to be scammed just to prove they can afford to. As I’ve said before, one of the problems with becoming immensely wealthy is that at some point you inevitably end up having more money than sense, no matter how much sense you had to start with. And that kind of money drags you into a bizarro world of pointless extravagance where sense becomes ever more irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3380 "2026-01-20T09:38:40Z")
I think you are falling into the WYSIWTI (‘what you see is what there is’) trap here. People who pay “ludicrously exaggerated prices for prestige “luxury” brand mass-produced items” _want_ to be known as excessively wealthy, and consequently inform your image of what excessively wealthy people are like. Meanwhile of the two billionaires I know, one looks like a pretty average businessman, and the other looks like he just came in from rounding up cattle. You would never know they were billionaires and so don’t inform your impression of what billionaires are like or do. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3381 "2026-01-20T14:42:23Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > I think extremely rich people probably treat the accumulation of wealth in the same way a normal person may see a video game, trying to score as many ‘points’ as possible. I think you’re right here. I’m wealthy enough to have/need a financial advisor. I don’t want to deal with it. I suppose I’m going to get a monthly… ‘allowance’. My wife and I just retired so I’m not sure how this all works. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3382 "2026-01-20T14:54:48Z")
Very much the score keeping for some. There are some exceedingly wealthy people we rarely hear about, because they don’t care to keep score. Like most of us, wealth is important for what it gets them (comfort and security, primarily) but not to show off. But others have a pathological need to seek status through accumulation and display of wealth. So we see that type on the news or social media all the time and think every rich person must be like that. Recall Trump’s unusual obsession with being on the Forbes list, even going to the extent of calling them as “John Barron” and fooling them into accepting inflated estimates of his wealth. For him, wealth, like many of his pathologies, has always included a major element of status seeking. And especially now between his lifelong narcissism and as he careens wildly into dotage, it doesn’t penetrate his mind that what he considers important status symbols aren’t universal. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3383 "2026-01-20T15:06:09Z")
I read somewhere, and please forgive me I can’t link ‘cause I don’t remember where, that some ridiculously wealthy people verge on being hoarders. They can’t spend it all, but they can’t resist opportunities to pile up more and more. It doesn’t seem to matter how it affects them or anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3384 "2026-01-20T16:23:26Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > The Russians, meanwhile, haven’t been able to conquer a small country that they share a border with. I’m not sure how many zeros to add to the odds on them taking Greenland. Do they even have much of a Navy capable of sailing to Greenland in any form whatsoever? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3385 "2026-01-20T16:30:14Z")
Why not? It seems to be only a couple thousand miles from Murmansk (where I think the nearest Russian port is) to Greenland. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3386 "2026-01-20T16:36:25Z")
They have a navy. Technically. There’s been sporadic attempts to modernize but they’re still heavily reliant on cold war leftovers. And there’s rampant corruption, poor maintenance, poor training, etc. And it’s been further weakened by Ukraine. Their power projection by sea isn’t all that great. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3387 "2026-01-20T16:39:12Z")
They certainly have a Navy, but enough to launch a land invasion? Less likely, especially as they are busy elsewhere. They might have a few long-range missiles though. It’s not like there are that many significant targets in Greenland. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3388 "2026-01-20T16:45:42Z")
I don’t know why this is a discussion, though. It’s playing into the distraction to entertain the notion that there is any threat to Greenland from either Russia or China. The only realistic current threat to Greenland is from the US. They are incompetent in so many other ways but they are quite good at thoroughly flooding the zone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=168) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=170)