# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3689 "2026-02-09T22:13:45Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> You can’t prove a negative Maxwell.

It’s true that if Maxwell is granted clemency she will say in public ‘_ **Donald Trump never had contact with anyone under 18 in his life** _’ (or whatever). And no, her denial doesn’t begin to approach “proof” of anything at all, other than that she made a deal.

Only the Cult will embrace such a statement, and how valuable is that, since they’re all basically “fine” with DT raping minors anyway?

Some believe that Donald is aware of the minimal value of a Maxwell “exoneration” statement, and therefore has no intention of giving her a commutation or pardon or anything. Certainly once he gives one to her, she’s free to start telling the truth. With his mob-boss instincts he’s not going to put himself in that position.

She’s likely out of luck, no matter how many lies she promises to tell.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3690 "2026-02-09T22:17:52Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Certainly once he gives one to her, she’s free to start telling the truth. With his mob-boss instincts he’s not going to put himself in that position.

Maybe he’s smart enough to puzzle that out. Maybe.

If Maxwell got out, she would have to go into deep hiding. If she got out and then started to tell the truth she would have to run for her life.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3691 "2026-02-09T22:24:13Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If Maxwell got out, she would have to go into deep hiding. If she got out and then started to tell the truth she would have to run for her life.

I suspect she’d do the former in anticipation of the latter happening _even if she did keep her mouth shut._ She’d know that all those whose continuing power depends on DT remaining President, would be worried about what she might do if she chose.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3692 "2026-02-09T23:14:47Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It’s true that if Maxwell is granted clemency she will say in public ‘_ **Donald Trump never had contact with anyone under 18 in his life** _’ (or whatever).

I would certainly accept a claim that he didn’t have anything to do with raising his children.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3693 "2026-02-09T23:35:34Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Weirdly, I think Jon Stewart appears even more. But only because they bring up the _Daily Show_ a lot for some reason. I guess Epstein was a fan.

Speaking of weird. Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder tells her story of being in the Epstein files. Apparently, Jeff was also into quantum gravity.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxxNENOBD6w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxxNENOBD6w)

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3694 "2026-02-10T01:11:53Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Maxwell should make a deal. Though I’m sure she is in fear for her life.

Make a deal with who? The Department of Just Covering For Trump?

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Trump’s comment about the Bad Bunny halftime show: “You couldn’t understand anything he said”. As stupid reaches a new high.

As soon as the show launched in Spanish I knew that would be the go to response.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> In other words, in Trump’s mind, “nobody” can understand Spanish. Which makes sense for a narcissist; if **he** can’t understand it, it’s not a real language.

That is exactly Trump’s opinion about everything. “Who knew health care was so complicated?”

Re Ghislaine Maxwell, such blatant request to be bribed would totally be ignored by the Supremes if it were to happen. It’s not a bribe, it’s a Gratuity. It’s a favor for a friend.

Promising to tell a story that would just happen to not implicate her in any further wrongdoing while also “corroborating” Trump’s claims of innocence is so obvious that only a MAGA would fall for it.

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3695 "2026-02-10T01:14:44Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> Speaking of weird. Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder tells her story of being in the Epstein files.

Perhaps it’s time for a new social media game: “Six degrees of Jeffrey Epstein.”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3696 "2026-02-10T01:14:46Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Re Ghislaine Maxwell, such blatant request to be bribed would totally be ignored by the Supremes if it were to happen. It’s not a bribe, it’s a Gratuity. It’s a favor for a friend.

It pisses me off that you’re not wrong.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3697 "2026-02-10T03:20:26Z")

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I would bet just about any amount of money that she’ll be pardoned before Jan. 20, 2029… and probably a lot sooner.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3698 "2026-02-10T11:54:36Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Make a deal with who? The Department of Just Covering For Trump?

Good point. Who can she turn to? The media won’t be trusted, and neither can anyone in the administration or congress either.

Even if she found an honest person, they will have to take anything she says with a trainload of salt.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3699 "2026-02-10T21:28:07Z")

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Today only?  
Well…  
…He’s threatened to not allow the opening of a US and Canada bridge saying that not enough American resources were used in building it so he will block the opening until the CNN article says “Canada pays back what it owes”

… He has floated the idea of renaming a few more things after him, such as Penn tation and Dulles Airport

… He has made clear a plan to start building a huge Arch in Washington DC that will be the tallest building in that city, about as tall as the Washington monument

But the day is still early.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3700 "2026-02-10T22:30:27Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> …He’s threatened to not allow the opening of a US and Canada bridge saying that not enough American resources were used in building it so he will block the opening until the CNN article says “Canada pays back what it owes”

So… Canada used more resorses than us. And it’s a shared bridge. OK. And they have to pay us for the resorces of ours they did not use. May I present to you the worlds greatest businessman. I wonder how in the world he has 6 bankruptcies. /s

And what does CNN have to do with this? He probably thinks it stands for Canadian News Network. I mean, he can’t keep Greenland and Iceland straight.

Ummm… What?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3701 "2026-02-10T23:40:14Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> He has made clear a plan to start building a huge Arch in Washington DC

Did he give that napkin to the engineers?

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2026, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3702 "2026-02-11T00:21:51Z")

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… 12 months and $300,000,000 later…

“No, we built it exactly to the specifications as shown on this napkin. 1.776 inches, see?”

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2026, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3703 "2026-02-11T01:46:08Z")

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Well at least overcompensation would still be achieved.

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Trump’s stupidity does go up to eleven, so it’s quite plausible.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2026, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3705 "2026-02-11T07:05:07Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [Ghislaine Maxwell appeals for clemency from Trump as she declines to answer questions from lawmakers](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ghislaine-maxwell-declined-answer-questions-153515791.html)

_“He added that both Trump and Clinton “are innocent of any wrongdoing,” but that ”Ms. Maxwell alone can explain why, and the public is entitled to that explanation."_

Ms. Maxwell,_alone_, holds the key to exoneration? What the hell kind of stupid statement is that? As @enipla pointed out, you can’t prove a negative. Also, this isn’t an episode of Scooby-doo, where one miscreant holds some dark secret. Also also, if "the public is _entitled_ to that explanation’, why is she demanding a payoff? 🙄

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2026, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/3706 "2026-02-11T13:00:14Z")

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She’s not making the argument to a judge or Congress or even the media.

She’s making a pitch to a dementia addled idiot who the American people, in their infinite degeneracy, have given the power to get her out of prison.

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Whisper in Demento Don’s ear, a little/lot of bribery, and voila - corruption on an international scale.

Minor update to the Gordie Howe Bridge drama; Trump’s sudden rambling was due to fresh lobbying from the Moroun Family trying to prevent the bigger and newer bridge from effectively replacing the one privately owned by them, the Ambassador Bridge, as a critical artery of trade.

> **[Ambassador Bridge owner reportedly met with federal official hours before...](https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/ambassador-bridge-gordie-howe-bridge-trump/)**
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> The owner of the Ambassador Bridge met with U.S. Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick hours before President Trump threatened to block the opening of the Gordie Howe International Bridge, the New York Times reported.

[https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2026/02/10/trump-threat-gordie-howe-bridge-michigan-economy](https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2026/02/10/trump-threat-gordie-howe-bridge-michigan-economy)

For context, the Ambassador Bridge has long been a major passage between Canada and the US in Michigan, and one of the rare few still privately owned. The Moroun Family has long abused their control over the bridge to often set high toll fees that travelers have to pay or else take the long way around, but never really used the tolls to update and improve the bridge. They claim they have perpetual exclusive rights to collect tolls from travelers going into or out of Canada via Michigan, and that the new bridge would violate that.

The new bridge was jointly planned between Michigan and Canada and built partly due to rising traffic issues and increasing tolls at the Ambassador bridge, as well as to help increase overall day tourism and trade in general (it features a dedicated biking and dedicated pedestrian lane). The Moroun Family had unsuccessfully lobbied several times to prevent its construction, as the new bridge would allow for a greater flow of traffic and shift business closer that way.

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