# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 262
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5244 "2026-07-02T04:41:12Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > So he just does everything right out in the open making people think it can’t be so bad. I suspect is also a matter of experience and inter-generational memory. 100 years ago every new parent knew or was related to someone who had lost an infant to disease, and the fear of infant mortality drove almost everybody to vaccinate their children without hesitation. That fear persisted through a generation or two but now first world parents simply have no experience of widespread infant mortality. Consequently many of them don’t see the value in vaccination. The US presidency has been relatively un-corrupt (by world standards) for so long that people simply have no memory of what happens to decision-making when the highest level of leadership make their decisions based on bribes. Someone from a country that has suffered the effects of long-term major corruption would jump at the chance for non-corrupt leadership. [Of course, corruption is so insidious that someone from such a country is unlikely to believe there is such a thing as non-corrupt leadership, and the USA is at or close to that point]. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5245 "2026-07-02T09:09:33Z")
From [here…](https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-crypto-business-video-b3007307.html) > **Trump dismisses ‘profiting off presidency’ claims after reports he made over $1bn in crypto** > > Donald Trump has brushed off concerns he’s “profiting off presidency”. > > “ I don’t get involved in my personal finances, we have funds that run my money’, he told journalists on Wednesday (1 July). > > His comments come after it was disclosed the president earned more than $1 billion from two cryptocurrency businesses that now outpace what he earns in revenue from his extensive property portfolio. > > Trump said he’s “had a great career in business” that has brought in high earnings. > > When asked by a reporter if he was “profiting off his presidency”, he brushed it off by saying, “ Well, you know why I’m profiting? 'Cause the stock market’s going up. Everybody’s profiting.” > > “Do you have a 401k? How’s your 401k done? It’s about up 85%”, he added before heading off to North Dakota in his brand-new Air Force One for the first time, to Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library. So that’s ok then. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5246 "2026-07-02T11:11:57Z")
> [@pjd](#): > > So that’s ok then. I like the headline in the Daily Kos reporting this story: # **[Trump says he isn’t corrupt—he’s just lucky](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/7/1/800063785/business-and-economy/trump-isnt-corrupt-just-lucky/)** **by [Oliver Willis](https://www.dailykos.com/user/oliver-willis/)** > **[Trump says he isn’t corrupt—he’s just lucky](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/7/1/800063785/business-and-economy/trump-isnt-corrupt-just-lucky/)** > > President Donald Trump is downplaying the more than 235% increase in his annual income since his second term began, a clear attempt to obscure the pattern of corruption among his administration. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5247 "2026-07-02T12:17:51Z")
> [@pjd](#): > > > “Do you have a 401k? How’s your 401k done? It’s about up 85%”, he added before heading off to North Dakota in his brand-new Air Force One for the first time, to Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library. Inner quote from **pjd** ’s cite. Using the S&P 500 index fund SPX as a proxy for “the stock market”, from trump’s inauguration to today, so 17 months, it’s up 23%. Not 85%. For comparison, it took Biden just 9 months to achieve the same 23% gains through the date trump took over & promptly wrecked the world. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5248 "2026-07-02T12:45:35Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > What I can comprehend is why people don’t just say ‘fuck off asshole’. > > Sorry to be so blunt, but there it is. Try to find the reporting on this on Fox News. I cannot locate a peep of this on their website right now. If the “right” never heard about this, why would they say fuck off? The right lives in a bubble that protects them from Trump’s corrupt dealings, his idiotic war blunders, the pathetic “state fair”, the reflecting pool swamp, and on and on. Also, it is fake news anyway. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5249 "2026-07-03T02:09:33Z")
The DOJ has arrested and charged David Hearn for damaging the reflecting pool. This is so much bullshit. > **[Former Olympic canoeist indicted for allegedly damaging Reflecting Pool | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/02/politics/former-olympic-rower-indicted-for-felony-related-to-reflecting-pool)** > > A former Olympic canoeist has been indicted by a grand jury in Washington, DC, Superior Court, for allegedly damaging the Reflecting Pool in front of the Lincoln Memorial. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5250 "2026-07-03T02:16:13Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > The DOJ has arrested and charged David Hearn for damaging the reflecting pool. This is so much bullshit. Let’s see if this makes it past a grand jury. I’m betting no. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5251 "2026-07-03T02:18:02Z")
Given the first line of that article, I wouldn’t bet too much money on that… ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5252 "2026-07-03T02:19:03Z")
Yes, that just makes it worse. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5253 "2026-07-03T02:19:40Z")
From above link: > [@](#): > > The indictment on Thursday marks a significant escalation of the Trump administration’s **recasting** of a peeling bottom layer and algae growth in the Reflecting Pool shortly after the president renovated it as serious vandalism. CNN - I would’ve used more spot-on words than the bolded. Oh great: > [@](#): > > Pirro said Thursday that there are “about a half dozen” other cases the US Attorney’s office is investigating. What horseshittery if ever there was any. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5254 "2026-07-03T02:25:50Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > The DOJ has arrested and charged David Hearn for damaging the reflecting pool. If you want to listen to Jeanine Pirro talk about the indictment, there’s a video in this link. At about the 4:50 mark, she describes just EXACTLY what happened that caused the gentleman to be arrested. Then at the 8:50 mark she talks about the damage, which is over $1,000.00, which makes it a felony. A reporter asks her how it’s been proved that it’s over a thousand bucks, to which she replies “with an expert. Come to the trial”. It’s actually kind of entertaining. > **[WATCH: U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro announces felony charge related to...](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-u-s-attorney-jeanine-pirro-announces-felony-charge-related-to-reflecting-pool)** > > A former Olympian was indicted Thursday on a felony charge in what President Donald Trump has called vandalism of the Reflecting Pool. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5255 "2026-07-03T02:29:22Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Given the first line of that article, I wouldn’t bet too much money on that… That’s what I get for just reading the headline. Jesus. How did _this_ one get past the grand jury? I am a little confused about one thing. > [@linked aticle](#): > > The indictment said a DC grand jury found that Hearn “maliciously did injure, break and destroy certain property, that is, the lining material of the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool.” A grand jury doesn’t decide guilt. They just decide whether there’s enough evidence for an indictment. Did I miss something? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5256 "2026-07-03T02:42:37Z")
In theory, journalistic standards. But CNN also missed those ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5257 "2026-07-03T02:42:42Z")
Sounds like another future failure for Ginine. The petty vindictiveness seems to be snowballing as Dumbass inches closer to lame duck territory. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5258 "2026-07-03T02:45:20Z")
An immediate problem for the prosecution would appear to be that Hearn was not found to be using any kind of implement. I think it is vanishingly unlikely that a prosecutor - who is clearly playing up the nature of Hearn’s alleged crime as much as possible - would fail to mention that he was found to have been using some kind of implement, if he was. So I think we can take it that he was not. It is essentially impossible to remove paint with your bare hands. The only way you can do so is if it’s already flaking so badly that it is beyond repair in which case it’s a bit hard to see how you can be “damaging” it ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5259 "2026-07-03T05:17:41Z")
Sure, but the whole point is basically the same principle as SLAPP. It’s the nuisance, time, and expense of having to deal with the legal issues that is the main point. Average people can’t afford any of those to any degree, especially compared against an entire government branch ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5260 "2026-07-03T05:53:19Z")
Not really. A SLAPP is as you say a strategy of silencing a defendant by causing them time and expense. That isn’t the Trump regime’s goal here (though it will unfortunately undoubtedly be the result). The regime’s goal is to have a scapegoat. They just want to have a fall guy that Fox news can mention, so that the low information MAGAs (is that a tautology?) will hear “person prosecuted for vandalism of Memorial Pool” and can pretend the whole mess wasn’t Trump’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5261 "2026-07-03T11:26:52Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > It is essentially impossible to remove paint with your bare hands. Right. But as Pirro says in the video in the article that I linked, she states that Hearn was observed ‘removing the bottom liner with both hands’. My guess is that he grabbed a damaged piece of the liner and pulled it out of the water. Clearly, an act of a traitor. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5262 "2026-07-03T12:11:18Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > > > The DOJ has arrested and charged David Hearn for damaging the reflecting pool. This is so much bullshit. > > Let’s see if this makes it past a grand jury. I’m betting no. Maybe if he’d thrown a sandwich in it… ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5263 "2026-07-03T12:26:33Z")
Problem is the guy is probably technically guilty as charged. The larger farce of the failed paint job is not at issue in his trial. If this gets to a jury trial I’d expect nullification in the jury room. Unless of course the jury is full of red-hats. Conversely, a bench trial will leave the judge with few if any options beyond guilty and the minimal sentence permitted under the sentencing “guidelines” that seem to have the force of law themselves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=261) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=263)