# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 263
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5264 "2026-07-03T13:25:33Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Problem is the guy is probably technically guilty as charged Is that right though? See the last sentence of my second last post. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5265 "2026-07-03T13:43:13Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Problem is the guy is probably technically guilty as charged. The larger farce of the failed paint job is not at issue in his trial. Do they have knife he used? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5266 "2026-07-03T14:03:09Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Sure, but the whole point is basically the same principle as SLAPP. It’s the nuisance, time, and expense of having to deal with the legal issues that is the main point. Average people can’t afford any of those to any degree, especially compared against an entire government branch I think I read that someone offered free legal counsel so at least it won’t cost him much. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5267 "2026-07-03T14:04:54Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Problem is the guy is probably technically guilty as charged. Guilty of what though? Is it a crime to take trash out of the pool? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5268 "2026-07-03T14:07:24Z")
And what he said is that he reached in to touch the floating lining. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5269 "2026-07-03T14:07:26Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I think I read that someone offered free legal counsel so at least it won’t cost him much. Not as much in dollars, perhaps, unless there’s also lost income from the time spent on it. But there’s still the lost time in general and anxiety of dealing with legal proceedings. It’s still basically a nuisance suit poorly disguised as a criminal case ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5270 "2026-07-03T14:39:33Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > It’s still basically a nuisance suit poorly disguised as a criminal case I really hope the judge throws the book at the criminals that brought this suit against this inocent man. Disbarment for the prosecutors. Hopefully he can get the ‘cop’ that arrested him fired. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5271 "2026-07-03T14:51:45Z")
We can only hope, although that never happens. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5272 "2026-07-03T15:00:53Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Not really. A SLAPP is as you say a strategy of silencing a defendant by causing them time and expense. That isn’t the Trump regime’s goal here (though it will unfortunately undoubtedly be the result). I think they can have more than one goal. One of which is for citizens to be afraid of criticizing, questioning, or otherwise embarrassing the administration. But you’re absolutely correct that they’re also searching for a scapegoat. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5273 "2026-07-03T15:15:03Z")
That may well be relevant to other prosecutions brought by this administration. However I haven’t read any suggestion Hearn had any intention of embarrassing or criticising the administration. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5274 "2026-07-03T15:38:40Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > However I haven’t read any suggestion Hearn had any intention of embarrassing or criticising the administration. No need. They embarrase themselves all on their own. What a joke this is. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5275 "2026-07-03T18:46:05Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > However I haven’t read any suggestion Hearn had any intention of embarrassing or criticising the administration. My working theory is Hearn was simply curious when he reached in to touch a piece of lining that was sloughing off the surface. I’m not convinced his intention is relevant when it comes to the actions of this administration. Trump wants to dissuade anyone from looking too closely at the reflecting pool, and Hearn will serve as both scapegoat and a reminder not to look too closely. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5276 "2026-07-03T18:55:44Z")
Not just a theory; AP News [reported](https://apnews.com/article/trump-reflecting-pool-paint-algae-6b7b499ada2701a34bc6bc380013ad04) > Hearn, a former Olympic canoe racer, told The Associated Press that he reached into the pool because he wanted to examine the peeling new coating. He said he briefly touched a chunk that was still attached to the side of the pool, then let go shortly after a park worker told him to. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5277 "2026-07-03T19:05:02Z")
The thing that kills me is the ‘crime’ is a felony with a potential for 10 years in prison. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5278 "2026-07-03T20:00:24Z")
With recent events involving grand juries, the first move should be to ask for the transcript. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5279 "2026-07-03T22:11:50Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > The thing that kills me is the ‘crime’ is a felony with a potential for 10 years in prison. “Felony” due to the $1,000 in damage Pirro et al are claiming. How they will convince a jury that touching a tiny bit of the many bits of lining floating around that huge pool, did “a thousand dollars-worth of damage,” is a mystery. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5280 "2026-07-04T02:50:26Z")
According to Drunken Asshole Pirro, there are witnesses that saw him “violently” pull up a piece of the lining with both hands. Uh-huh 🙄 A Grand Jury went along with this? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5281 "2026-07-04T02:51:02Z")
Especially since he had no implement of any sort to 😱 destoy 😱 the lining. Yeah - no idea how the prosecution will work that. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5282 "2026-07-04T02:52:13Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > …“violently” pull up a piece of the lining with both hands. Betting there’s no corroborating video. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5283 "2026-07-04T03:03:53Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > How they will convince a jury that touching a tiny bit of the many bits of lining floating around that huge pool, did “a thousand dollars-worth of damage,” is a mystery. Pirro assured us “experts” would demonstrate that in court. If you can’t trust the United States Attorny for the District of Columbia I don’t know who you can trust. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=262) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=264)