# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 266
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5324 "2026-07-08T18:00:31Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > I have no doubt that the USA, and to a lesser extent, Canada and Mexico, will suffer the same fate. How? We just used the stadiums we already had. We didn’t have to build anything. The biggest impact locally here was having to temporarily rename our stadium and dealing with a bit more traffic than usual. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5325 "2026-07-08T18:02:12Z")
FWIW, the stadium used in Mexico City is their normal fútbol stadium. I don’t know if it got any sprucing up, but it and its attendant facilities all already existed too. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5326 "2026-07-08T18:05:12Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > How? We just used the stadiums we already had. I stand corrected, by @Atamasama and @LSLGuy ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5327 "2026-07-08T18:09:25Z")
Call it North American privilege maybe. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5328 "2026-07-08T18:11:18Z")
It’s convenient that between the three countries we add up to ~500 million people. We already have a LOT of large stadiums scattered about. Some are even designed for playing fútbol. SA at 60M? Not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5329 "2026-07-08T18:15:40Z")
Never mind, wrong thread. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5330 "2026-07-08T18:25:37Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > FWIW, the stadium used in Mexico City is their normal fútbol stadium Likewise, the ones in Guadalajara and Monterrey were ones used for their respective local teams. And the two Canadian stadiums in Vancouver and Toronto also already existed and host MLS and CFL games. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5331 "2026-07-08T20:06:20Z")
Rolling Coal afficianados rejoice, breathable air folks excluded. Under the contrived guise of letting people repair their own vehicles, farm equipment… etc COTUS\* has pardoned most of the worst offenders who sold the emissions delete parts. How soon before they sue the government to get back their fines and penalities? \*Crime boss of the United States > **[President Trump Pardons 9 More Diesel Tuners Convicted Of Violating The Clean...](https://www.jalopnik.com/2209198/president-trump-pardons-more-convicted-diesel-tuners/)** > > Most of these investigations and convictions took place, at least in part, during Trump's first or second term, not exclusively under Biden as Trump claims. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5332 "2026-07-08T20:39:13Z")
Not surprised. I’m waiting for him to outlaw solar energy because it uses too much of the sun. That they call them Diesel ‘Tuners’ is an afront to anyone that has ever worked on a car. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5333 "2026-07-08T20:54:51Z")
Since our heyday as motorheads, “tuner” has become the catchall term for “guy who modifies his car or other folk’s cars”. With a lot of “tuner” culture being about using hardware or software tweaks to improve performance by bypassing various factory safeguards in the car’s computers. Which is pretty much exactly what the coal rolling assholes have been doing. Bypassing safeguards to make the car do things the factory doesn’t want it to do. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5334 "2026-07-08T21:19:13Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Which is pretty much exactly what the coal rolling assholes have been doing. Bypassing safeguards to make the car do things the factory doesn’t want it to do. Yes. And some idiot told Donald that people got arrested for ‘tuning’ their car. Trump, moron that he is, did not know what was going on. Or, Trump thought it was perfectly fine to smog or whatever anyone on a bike or EV. I have some special feelings for coal rollers that cannot be expressed in polite company. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5335 "2026-07-08T21:29:18Z")
Me too. Coal-rollin’ is assault and immediately returning fire is not unreasonable. Or at least should not be seen as legally unreasonable. To the degree trump thought anything it was “these freedumb loving truck drivers are MAGA personified. How about I throw out a bone that costs nothing and will get me the adoration of the boots & pickup trucks crowd for another few months. Anything to take their mind off the price of diesel”. More likely his advisors thought the above but told trump that these guys were railroaded by the Biden weaponized DOJ & this pardon would be sticking one to Biden. So of course he signed the papers. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5336 "2026-07-08T21:56:32Z")
For those, like me, who may have never heard the term “coal rolling” and might need to look it up… > **[Rolling coal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal?wprov=sfla1)** > > Rolling coal (also spelled rollin' coal) is the practice of modifying a diesel engine to deliberately emit large amounts of black or gray diesel exhaust, containing soot and incompletely combusted fuel. Rolling coal is used as a form of anti-environmentalism protest. In some jurisdictions the practice is illegal, due to it violating clean air laws. Modifications may include the intentional removal of the particulate filter, installing smoke switches, large exhausts, and smoke stacks. Modification... So yeah, definitely have seen and know what this is even though I wasn’t aware there was a specific term for it. It’s basically an individualized and super concentrated air pollution tactic for people who, I guess, are anti-environmentalists? And Trump has pardoned a bunch of these geniuses because MAGA doesn’t seem to think they need clean air to breathe? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5337 "2026-07-08T22:08:59Z")
Not quite. A bunch of businesses made millions of dollars selling coal-rollin’ accessory kits for $500 to $1K each. That idjits installed on their pickup trucks so they could push a button and roll some coal. Some combo of EPA and DOT investigated and charged them with the federal crimes of subverting EPA regs and making illegal mods to car’s emissions systems. They were found guilty and sentenced to large fines and prison time. Their businesses were destroyed in the process. Now trump’s setting them free and wiping out their convictions. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5338 "2026-07-08T22:16:42Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Now trump’s setting them free and wiping out their convictions. And like the J6 traitors, there will be a felony on there record. So they can only survive by committing more crimes. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5339 "2026-07-08T22:20:42Z")
Or by running a legit business that doesn’t require a lot of professional licensing. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5340 "2026-07-08T22:27:38Z")
I doubt many of these guys could start a new business. Maybe lawn care. Which is fine. Or robbing 7-11’s. Trump tried to rob the US of 1.8 billion dollars to pay off his personal army. Expect more of that. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5341 "2026-07-08T22:37:05Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > He just said that our ships were attacked by the Islamic Republic of Japan. Forget it. He’s rolling. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5342 "2026-07-08T22:37:52Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Also, I’m about 100% sure that he notified his cronies that he was about to hit Iran again so that they could cash in on stock trades. No one would bet against that being the case. Note also that Epstein has been in the news bigly in the last few days, due to the DOJ missing a deadline to un-redact a number of Epstein documents. Also making the news all over in the past few days: another court order denying Donald the chance to hold back E. Jean Carroll’s $5 million-plus. So bombing Iran was pretty much a foregone conclusion. Gotta change those headlines. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/5343 "2026-07-09T03:34:56Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Yeah, thanks. I found it online. Why is nobody standing up to him? One of his flacks will probably come up with some excuse like he was using satire to compare the attacks on our aircraft carrier to the cowardly surprise attack on pearl harbor and his cultists will eat it up and marvel at how witty he is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=265) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=267)