# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
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Well, a figurehead that I very much doubt would have anywhere near the pull that Trump has had over MAGA.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6265 "2026-10-24T16:56:08Z")

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Despite all your protests to the contrary, that rat bastard has way too much power and has done way too much damage just to be a figurehead.

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**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6266 "2026-10-24T17:38:34Z")

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King Charles is a figurehead. Trump is an aspiring dictator with actual power that he is wielding every day to destroy this country. Equating them is ridiculous. King Charles doesn’t have the power to attack another country. Trump does.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
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I suppose it’s just as well that Trump is too senile to be an _effective_ dictator. It’s a testament to democracy that his tenure in office is still respected; in a true dictatorship his bodyguards would have long since sold out to a coup d’etat.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6268 "2026-10-24T18:03:44Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Well, a figurehead that I very much doubt would have anywhere near the pull that Trump has had over MAGA.

Trump controls the magas. So what?

The magas have no political power. The one time Trump tried to use the magas was January 6 and they revealed they’re just a violent mob who can’t actually accomplish anything.

Trump has power because the Republican party gave him power. And if the Republican party decided to get rid of Trump they could do it tomorrow. The Republicans are the ones who have power, not Trump.

But like I said, Trump serves a useful purpose for now. His loud crimes serve to distract attention away from the quiet crimes the Republican party is committing.

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**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6269 "2026-10-24T18:06:13Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The magas have no political power.

They don’t vote?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6270 "2026-10-24T18:10:01Z")

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No, I think that Trump is a “necessary evil” for the Republicans. Charismatic con-man that he is, Trump commands the loyalty of the truly paranoid faction of the right wing, the ones that consider even conventional Republicans compromised sell-outs. If the Republicans “deposed” Trump, 20% of their support would vanish overnight. Thus the Republicans are faced with a dilemma: without Trump they can’t win; and with Trump for all his warts (more like tumors at this point), they can scarcely lose. So they hold their noses as best they can.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6271 "2026-10-24T18:10:59Z")

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**You can’t get to [Point Roberts](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Point+Roberts,+WA/@48.9686478,-123.0315288,31004m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x5485e5ffff02c5fd:0x2b6ed49177b716a!8m2!3d48.9883827!4d-123.0568693!16zL20vMDFkNG5f?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MTAyMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) from here.**

Not without going through Canada.

Tl;dr: A Canadian longtime legal permanent resident of Point Roberts, WA was detained for hours at the birder, as she was returning to her home after her 61st birthday dinner. The ordeal left her frightened of crossing the border again. She told her immigration lawyer that she was not feeling well, and needed to see a doctor; But she was too afraid to cross through Canada to do it. [CBC reports](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/paige-adamson-death-fear-immigration-deportation-9.7392450) that she slipped in her home and was injured, relying on friends to help her to the bathroom. She called a community support officer to ask if she could borrow some crutches. She refused to be transported to a hospital because she was afraid of bveing detained again.

> **[Point Roberts resident dies after border questioning leaves her trapped - The...](https://www.thenorthernlight.com/stories/point-roberts-resident-dies-after-border-questioning-leaves-her-trapped,45202)**
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> Paige Adamson, a Point Roberts resident who was recently detained by U.S. border agents, interrogated, and given a court date for deportation proceedings, died on Sunday after expressing she was …

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6272 "2026-10-24T19:56:02Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Charismatic con-man that he is,

Every time I hear that he is charismatic I want to puke. Obama was charismatic, Trump is a hollow shell of something that almost became a man.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
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quote="Little\_Nemo, post:6263, topic:1013964"

Trump couldn’t successfully manage a convenience store

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Of course not. Have you seen how many products he’d have to keep track of? I’m doubtful he could manage a lemonade stand.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6274 "2026-10-24T22:07:02Z")

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> [@Gordon\_G](#):
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> An MS NOW story from March, but this traitorous grift didn’t get as much attention as it deserved.
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> > President Donald Trump’s political action committee this week sent a fundraising email promising donors “private national security briefings” by the president himself …
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> > “For the first time ever, I’m opening up spots on the National Security Briefing Membership,” reads the email, from Trump’s Never Surrender Inc. PAC.
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> > “As a National Security Briefing Member, you’ll receive my private national security briefings, unfiltered updates on the threats facing America. The straight truth on border invasions, foreign adversaries, deep state sabotage, and every danger the fake news hides,” it continues.

Generations of human beings never could have imagined that “ **national security** ” would be redefined, in 2026, to _now_ mean “inside information you can use to get richer, if you just pay Donald enough money.”

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6275 "2026-10-24T22:51:16Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Every time I hear that he is charismatic I want to puke. Obama was charismatic, Trump is a hollow shell of something that almost became a man.

I understand why he turns your stomach, but the truth is that some people loved Trump. There’s something about him that allows him to say and do things that few other politicians could get away with.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6276 "2026-10-24T23:01:19Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And this statement has been back up by…?

The contamination and exposure go way back at Camp Lejune, into to 80s. Dragged kicking and screaming, settlements began under Biden. Nothing stops Diaper Don from claiming credit​🙄

- **Camp Lejeune Justice Act:** Enacted under the 2022 PACT Act to enable affected individuals and families to pursue federal compensation.
- **Elective Option & Settlements:** Fast-track payouts through the Elective Option generally range from $100,000 to $550,000, with total settlements surpassing $1.1 billion and payouts exceeding $879 million

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6277 "2026-10-25T01:24:47Z")

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> [@Disinfectus](#):
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> > [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > The magas have no political power.
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> They don’t vote?

The main goal of the Republican party for the last few decades has been to take control of the election process.

When voting doesn’t determine who’s in power, the ability to vote is meaningless.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6278 "2026-10-25T06:35:24Z")

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That something you speak of is his ability to lie to idiotic investors and for some reason they believe him. Sure, they get screwed over (all of his casinos and vodka and airplanes), but they still have enough money anyway.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6279 "2026-10-25T12:51:24Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Generations of human beings never could have imagined that “ **national security** ” would be redefined, in 2026, to _now_ mean “inside information you can use to get richer, if you just pay Donald enough money.”

This is something that should get much, much more attention. Come on now, **he’s selling National Security?**

The minute he said that he should have been imprisoned, and every single communication device he has removed. Every conversation between him and a lawyer should be monitored.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
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AFAIK, even national security suspects have to be allowed confidential meetings with their lawyer. Otherwise the government that’s determined to see someone hang would be the same government that would supposedly be administering a fair and impartial trial.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@enipla](#):
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> The minute he said that he should have been imprisoned, and every single communication device he has removed. Every conversation between him and a lawyer should be monitored.

I agree 100% with the idea expressed in this sentence.

**BUT** you have used the troublesome _passive voice,_ which hides, disguises, masks, cloaks, veils, obscures, conceals, and covers up **who** is going to do all of these things. So who is that, hmmm?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/6282 "2026-10-25T14:08:14Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> So who is that, hmmm?

I didn’t cover it up.

That’s one on the things that desperately needs fixed. The president should not be in charge of the Federal Marshals. Nor should the Justice Department.

How? I donno.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
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_Somebody_ has to be in charge of the Federal Marshals, and there are excellent reasons why the Judiciary should NOT have its own police force. Congress is supposed to rein in a outlaw President, which unfortunately just isn’t happening.

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