# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/668 "2025-04-27T16:37:28Z")
Here is the image @smithsb posted but didn’t display (at least for me): [![](https://i.imgur.com/qk0uzA4.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/qk0uzA4.png) ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/669 "2025-04-27T17:25:42Z")
I have to admire Trump for consistency. He not only thinks/knows that his _supporters_ tend to be idiots, he _also_ believes that all of Corporate America, all the Titans of Industry, and all the Wizards of Wall Street are rank idiots and hapless, benighted victims, too. Nothing like a violent, ill-conceived, headlong Republican incursion into their venerated, sacrosanct ‘Free Market,’ huh? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/670 "2025-04-27T19:05:44Z")
I understand it now > **[Lizzy Tish (@lizzy-tish.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/lizzy-tish.bsky.social/post/3lnrd4ub3fk2x)** > > Not a single international cargo ship at the Port of Seattle. The port is dead. The last ship from China will dock at a West coast port on the 29th, and the last Chinese ship will dock on the East coast around May 10th. After that, there will be no... the parts of the country that thrive on international trade – especially that bright blue stripe over on the left side – will have their eonomies hammered by throttling trade. What better way to subdue those pesky liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/671 "2025-04-27T19:19:50Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > It turns out making deals is really hard when you have to do it with other people. But, as the great businessman explains, it’s easy when you cut out the other party. I can’t think of any definition of “deal” that doesn’t include more than one party. If only one party is involved, it’s not a “deal.” So apparently Donald’s famous book should have been called _ **The Art of Self-Gratification** _. > [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > > [@Cervaise](#): > > > > He could be convinced to resign, but that’s so far outside the realm of plausibility as to be dismissed without further consideration. > > Cowardice is now a core value of the Republican party. I don’t think we should rule out either impeachment or an Amendment 25 action by the Cabinet, because what’s preventing these things now is **NOT** actual devotion to Donald. What’s preventing those things now is a belief that there are still enough genuinely-devoted MAGA people—voters in the case of Congress, and potential business-partners in the case of the Cabinet—to make “loyalty” to Donald the smart move. But if the numbers change, the “loyalty” will be revealed as what it always was: self-interest. If members of Congress come to believe that they will surely lose re-election if they stick with Donald, they’ll deep-six him. If members of the Cabinet believe they’ll (essentially) lose their memberships in the Billionaires’ Club by sticking with Donald, they’ll deep-six him. It’s more straightforward in the case of Congress, of course. For the Cabinet, it’s a mix. The actual billionaires will be looking at their own portfolios, and their potential fears of Donald making them mere millionaires through his insane policies will rule. Those who aren’t quite billionaires yet will be more influenced by the opinions of the billionaires who could employ them or throw business their way or act as their patrons. If those figures express a strong-enough wish that Donald be removed, those Cabinet members will act to remove him. He’s self-destructing at a pace none of us envisioned. And his ability to, for example, hold on through martial law has been sabotaged by his choice of Epically Incompetent Pete Hegseth to head his main weapon (the military). He’s not a lock to be made dictator-for-life by a compliant military; though there are many in the military who WOULD gladly have given him that, they are likely outnumbered by those appalled by the Hegseth scandals. Donald can’t count on a preponderance of the military having his back in any “punish Congress/punish my Cabinet for threatening me” scenario. In short: there is hope. Donald’s own stupidity has provided us with hope. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/672 "2025-04-27T19:43:29Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > He’s self-destructing at a pace none of us envisioned. CNN had a poll this morning with 60% Disapproval rating. Kinda fun to watch! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/673 "2025-04-27T19:53:58Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > CNN had a poll this morning with 60% Disapproval rating. Kinda fun to watch! Definitely satisfying to have one’s own knowledge and opinion start to be reflected in the views of the majority! Also: hope is better than cynicism. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/674 "2025-04-27T22:45:51Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > More from the Time interview. I read the entire interview. Wow, just wow. His mind is not well. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/675 "2025-04-27T23:28:55Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > the parts of the country that thrive on international trade Our office used to be on Harbor Island, just on the north side of the West Seattle Bridge. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/676 "2025-04-28T00:32:39Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I read the entire interview. I would offer to help with your therapy, but, man, you brought this on yourself. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/677 "2025-04-28T01:14:27Z")
I’m not religious but I like the concept of self-flagellation. I’ve done my bout for the week and I can now go sin with impunity. Or, something like that. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/678 "2025-04-28T01:48:35Z")
You know, I’d like to go and sin with Impunity, I heard they know how to party. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/679 "2025-04-28T01:55:53Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I’m not religious but I like the concept of self-flagellation. I’ve done my bout for the week and I can now go sin with impunity. Or, something like that. If Jesus died so our sins could be forgiven, let’s make sure it wasn’t in vain. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/680 "2025-04-28T02:08:37Z")
Rasputin urged his followers to sin so they could receive the grace of forgiveness. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/681 "2025-04-28T02:51:52Z")
Trump is doing every horrible thing he said he would during the election campaign, and even more that _should_ be pleasing to his MAGA base. I’m gratified to see his polls now taking a dive, but I have to wonder: what did these idjits _think_ they were voting for? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/682 "2025-04-28T03:05:48Z")
The leopards were supposed to eat everybody else’s face is, not theirs. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/683 "2025-04-28T03:30:16Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > If Jesus died so our sins could be forgiven, let’s make sure it wasn’t in vain. Jesus died for somebody’s sins, but not mine. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/684 "2025-04-28T03:43:46Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I’m gratified to see his polls now taking a dive, but I have to wonder: what did these idjits _think_ they were voting for? Last time around, his ratings crossed into this territory by the middle of February and stayed net-negative for his entire term, spiking briefly to as high as about -2 in May of '20, but fluttering around the -10 ~ -20 range consistently for most of those 4 years. Joe the President had net-positive approval up until the Afghanistan withdrawal, then dropped into a similar negative range for the rest of his term, which I attribute mostly to constant portrayal of “both sides” being on comparable ground (an assessment that galls many of us here).        Felon-ONE’s net-approval rating seemed a little high to me, based on the last time around. We can hope that maybe this time the downward trend will be steady and consistent, instead of leveling off, until even the Rs take notice that this boat is swamped and unrecoverable. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/685 "2025-04-28T04:38:54Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > You know, I’d like to go and sin with Impunity, I heard they know how to party. Reminds me of the silly joke about everyone feeling joy. > [@eschereal](#): > > constant portrayal of “both sides” being on comparable ground (an assessment that galls many of us here) I’m still contratulating myself for not unloading my unvarnished opinion on him when just this past Friday, an American told me in peson the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are no different. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/686 "2025-04-28T05:29:32Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I’m gratified to see his polls now taking a dive, but I have to wonder: what did these idjits _think_ they were voting for? I’ve said this before, but — a lot of people simply aren’t paying attention. We monitor the news closely and endlessly hash over events here. A lot of people, maybe even most people, don’t do that, to any degree. We are outside the norm. Political campaigns over the last thirty years are about empty promises and shit-slinging. The overheated rhetoric says “I’m going to balance the budget and restore America’s manufacturing base and secure the border! My opponent will raise taxes to eleventy million percent and sell Social Security to Blackwater and turn your kindergartner queer!” and then the kitchen-table issues never really change. It’s totally understandable — maybe even forgivable — that Joe and Jane Voter would listen to Trump, as a candidate, babbling endlessly like every other candidate, and tune him out. Especially because he made a lot of similar noise during his first administration and it was almost entirely a do-nothing train wreck. And even now, I suspect if you went and asked Joe and Jane Voter their opinion of the tariffs creating a global slowdown in trade, they’d look at you as if you’re wearing a tuxedo made of gum wrappers. It’s going to take _a lot_ before these disconnected, disaffected voters wake up to what’s really happening. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/687 "2025-04-28T05:51:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’m still contratulating myself for not unloading my unvarnished opinion on him when just this past Friday, an American told me in peson the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are no different. I think I would either turn and walk away (unless that were not an option) or just stare at that person with the most neutral expression I could muster. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=35)