# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/888 "2025-05-12T10:52:11Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > By _monstrosity_, you mean Trump, right? If only. If they can ever prosecute him, New York (city) has another penitentiary Island for convicts. One could swim to La Guardia airport. (ETA: Oh yeah, Felon 47. Are all/some of those in New York?) This thing, if ever made to statue height, is going in front of the Kennedy Center or Nuuk. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/889 "2025-05-12T12:29:46Z")
Question: If Trump’s reasoning for all these tariffs and EOs is that we are “at war with Venezuela because of illegal immigrants” - which allows him to do all this stuff without Congressional approval - why does this not count to him stopping? [![](https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/114/484/221/913/585/660/original/5fcbfd8fa9af28bf.jpg) ](https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/114/484/221/913/585/660/original/5fcbfd8fa9af28bf.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/890 "2025-05-12T12:37:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > [@Coriolanus](#): > > > > This monstrosity should go on Governor’s Island glaring across the Hudson at the Statue of Liberty. > > By _monstrosity_, you mean Trump, right? No, the island I wanna see _that_ monstrosity on is Rykers… Or perhaps Alcatraz. _After_ he’s finished refurbishing it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/891 "2025-05-12T12:40:54Z")
Rockall is still available. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/892 "2025-05-12T13:05:11Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > No, the island I wanna see _that_ monstrosity on is Rykers… I suggest Anvil Mountain Correctional Center. It is almost as far as you can get from Palm Beach while still being in the US. And it is so close to Милая Родина he would almost be able to taste it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/893 "2025-05-12T14:00:36Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Or perhaps Alcatraz. _After_ he’s finished refurbishing it. 🤔 I hate to give him ideas (hehe), but maybe he’ll refurbish Alcatraz at government expense into a posh resort-style residence and then instead of using it as a prison, he’ll declare it to be the Western White House, aka Mar-a-Lago West. Or make part of it into a Club Fed style prison and use the prisoners as personal ~~slaves~~ “helpers,” i.e., groundskeepers, house n-----, _um_, house _servants_, and general dogsbodies. Is the island big enough for a golf course? Big enough for a landing strip for the new airplane? I can see a post-presidential reality series. The ratings will go through the roof! I need to go lie down for a while. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/894 "2025-05-12T14:55:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Big enough for a landing strip for the new airplane? I’m sure you could land it there once. Not sure if it would be in a fit state to take off again afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/895 "2025-05-12T15:39:14Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > No, the island I wanna see _that_ monstrosity on is Rykers Rikers (which I coyly alluded to as one can swim to LGA airport) - rough waters, generally no sharks yet a do-able swim for non-fatasses) - is too good for him. The inmates are mainly pre-trial or short-timers, neither of which Felon is. Bounce him around the up state max’s should the hard-to-imagine occur. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/896 "2025-05-12T15:48:48Z")
That works for me. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/897 "2025-05-12T16:02:37Z")
But Alcatraz used to be a Federal Penitentiary. I think it still is a National Park Service thing. There is a state facility that would be suitable: Donald J. Trump Park in Putnam County, New York. Bought for $2.5 million Trump couldn’t make even one of his crappy golf courses out of it so left it abandoned. n 2017, an article on website _[The A.V. Club](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_A.V._Club)_ framed the park as an “abandoned wasteland”, with “muddy fields, overgrown tennis courts, and dilapidated buildings” and a swimming pool in disrepair. Still he donated it to NYS and then Gov. Pataki valued at $100 million tax write-off. It’s still there - the legislature tries to change its name but the people of Putnam/Westchester like it. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind some 20 foot high double barbed-wire fencing and a guard tower to house the titular inmate. They can keep the name. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/898 "2025-05-12T16:43:11Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Nitpick: I prefer [‘ISO 3166-1 alpha-3’](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-3) names, so ‘RSA’ because despite being an actual South African, I was not sure if “SA” referred to South America or not. FWIW, the [postal code abbreviation](https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/codes.html) for South Africa is ZA. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/899 "2025-05-12T16:49:03Z")
Let’s open up Alcatraz for Donald’s personal living quarters. Works for me. “Sorry, we are out of concrete patch, but you have a very secure door.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/900 "2025-05-12T16:53:46Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > a do-able swim for non-fatasses From the look of him, it appears unlikely that he would have to worry about going under. The noble ocean would strive to reject him. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/901 "2025-05-12T17:39:50Z")
> [@JacobSwan](#): > > I’m sure you could land it there once. Not sure if it would be in a fit state to take off again afterwards. Perfect for that Qatar airliner. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/902 "2025-05-12T17:42:22Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > …When Reagan was shot, at least two SS guys had their Uzi’s out instantly, Reagan was surrounded and issued into the Limo. I forgot whom, but someone with the call said go to the Hospital not the WH (which has a complete ER) which apparently saved Ronnie’s life… This guy: [Jerry Parr - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Parr) And FWIW, I only ever saw one Secret Service agent armed with an Uzi in photos of the aftermath of the shooting. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/903 "2025-05-12T18:11:57Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > And FWIW, I only ever saw one Secret Service agent armed with an Uzi in photos of the aftermath of the shooting. Back then I was watching the news replays of what couldn’t have been more five seconds of video and thought i saw two. I was on the phone with a friend who knew what they were because his father had one. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/904 "2025-05-12T19:15:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I only ever saw one Secret Service agent armed with an Uzi In the wiki photos there’s one before the shooting there’s a guy in a tan overcoat - Jerry Parr - who from my 40 year recollection (never youtubed this) who i thought was one of those (perhaps the only one) who pulled an Uzi out of his overcoat. In another pic a very angry looking SS agent (no overcoat at least not anymore) Robert Wanko is pulling the stock back on an Uzi which do fold up nicely when tucked away (yet you’ll still want to conceal it with an overcoat) As Parr wouldn’t need a firearm in the presidential limo it could be his Uzi yet at least in wiki there’s no mention of a hand-off. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/905 "2025-05-12T19:26:32Z")
No mention of a Secret Service agent named Jack Uzi? I’m disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/906 "2025-05-12T19:36:01Z")
Nowadays the SS still use an array of handguns, rifles and submachine guns. The closest replacement to the Uzi is the FN P90 Submachine gun, which provides the same kind of conceal-ability and firepower without scaring the children. And clearly their tactics involve embracing you tight while you raise your fist and standing next to you wondering what all the fuss is about. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/907 "2025-05-12T19:44:51Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > And clearly their tactics involve embracing you tight while you raise your fist and standing next to you wondering what all the fuss is about. Some situations require a person to embrace their inner Judd Nelson. [![](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/the-breakfast-club-the-fist.jpg) ](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/the-breakfast-club-the-fist.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964.md?page=46)