# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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Thanks, @Railer13 ! I deleted that response to **psychobunny** ’s post because I found out after making it, they were being sarcastic.

For those who missed it, I was referring to the Quatari asset, I mean the new Air Force One being transferred to the Trump presidential library.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
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Thanks for the heads-up. I didn’t spend _too_ much time trying to find “jumbo jet” in your post.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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It’s not him, but his best buddy Kid “I look like a bag of dried prunes” Rock sure seems to like babbling about stuff like birth rates and “ugly” women.

> **[Kid Rock blames ugly liberal women for low US birth rates](https://www.newsweek.com/kid-rock-low-birth-rate-ugly-liberal-women-2073193)**
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> "It all makes sense now," the singer said during an appearance on Fox News.

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So, nobody will sleep with him. Got it.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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> **[Kid Rock’s restaurant workers asked to go home to avoid rumored Ice raids](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/15/kid-rock-restaurant-ice-raids?CMP=share_btn_url)**
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> Nashville establishments owned by Trump supporter Steve Smith struggled as undocumented staff left mid-service

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/973 "2025-05-18T00:35:11Z")

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There are two angles for why a low birth rate is a problem.

The first has to do with the balance between production and utilization. Consider Social Security for an example. Every year the money coming in is used to pay for the money being paid out. The problem is that with declining birth rates and aging population, more goes out every year and less is paid in.

Theoretically there is some bank account saving up money coming in that exceeds current payout needs, to provide a surplus for later payouts. Except that bank account is theoretical only. All the money the government takes in is spent every year. They raid the SS “account” to pay other expenses, on the premise that they will restore the money to the account when the time comes, i.e take the money from other sources.

A similar problem exists in industry and production. As the aging workforce retires and stops producing, there are fewer young people to take up those jobs and that production.

That’s the impact to the GDP, and thus the financial concern for the future.

The second reason the Republicans are pushing birth rate geeks more specific about _who_ is having fewer babies. There’s nothing in the plan _so far_ to indicate they will slant the payments to _white_ women, but given their attitudes about racial demographics and other social programs. E.g. the “welfare queen” meme, I’m sure if they ever get to implementation there will be something buried in the details.

Kid Rock going on about “ugly women” and blue hair just shows how out of touch he is. I see a lot of blue or purple hair, most on young ladies under 30. It’s a style, like bell-bottoms.

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Kid Rock going on about “ugly women” and blue hair just shows how out of touch he is. I see a lot of blue or purple hair, most on young ladies under 30. It’s a style, like bell-bottoms.

But you do have to love that a guy that dresses likes this,

[![](https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2645983/kid-rock.webp?w=790&f=c68d01af3f7a7e028c62d2b43cdbbb20) ](https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2645983/kid-rock.webp?w=790&f=c68d01af3f7a7e028c62d2b43cdbbb20)

to visit the President in the Oval fucking Office is complaining about other folks style choices.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/975 "2025-05-18T01:59:19Z")

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# “Trump peddles false conspiracy theories tying Clintons to several deaths”

[https://wapo.st/4j5Nr1P](https://wapo.st/4j5Nr1P)  
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Today Donnie dredged up some Golden Oldies. 🥱

> Among a litany of social media posts shared by Donald Trump on Saturday, the sitting president dredged up a 2016 video rehashing old, false claims implying that former president Bill Clinton and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton are tied to several deaths.
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> …
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> The video, overlaid with the caption, “THE VIDEO HILLARY CLINTON DOES NOT WANT YOU TO SEE,” perpetuates the long-standing “Clinton body count” conspiracy theory, which claims that the Clintons are responsible for the deaths of several individuals who could be seen as political opponents. The claims, however, are false.
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> A narrator in the video that Trump shared points out that John F. Kennedy Jr. [died in a plane crash](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1999/07/18/jfk-jr-feared-dead-in-plane-crash/9e7e7eb1-c6e4-4246-b8bf-08abd450a61d/)while seen as the Democratic front-runner in a New York Senate race, which Hillary Clinton eventually won.
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> The video also refers to the killing of Clinton White House intern Mary Mahoney, who [was shot during an attempted robbery](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/04/26/cooper-sentenced-to-life-for-starbucks-slayings/35324138-0b31-4da1-a0de-57374cdd0fda/)at a Washington Starbucks when she tried to grab the shooter’s gun, according to the shooter’s testimony. The false implication of the video shared by Trump, by contrast, is that the Clintons were somehow involved.  
> …"

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So why didn’t the Clintons have Trump killed?

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For the same reason that Democrats control the weather, yet never direct a hurricane directly to Mar-A-Lago.

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Trump is the Chosen One and the messiah. That’s why bullets can only graze him.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That’s why bullets can only graze him.

And cartilage heals completely.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/980 "2025-05-18T23:43:16Z")

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It all makes sense if you think of Trump as being the literal Antichrist.

> Revelation 13:3-4
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> One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

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My brain hurts.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/982 "2025-05-19T21:16:23Z")

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Oh, for fucks sake. I hope his jealousy of someone else’s crowd sizes and A+ star supporters eats him up inside and haunts his dreams every single goddamn day.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/9cosCSk.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/9cosCSk.jpg)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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It’s so funny that criticism eats him up to the point that he posts about it at 1:30 in the a.m.  
What a fucking baby. And that Republicans think he’s a tough guy…  
The stupid is stupendous.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
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Hasn’t he paid people to perform at his rallies?

Is there any actual legal problem with this?

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/985 "2025-05-19T21:46:36Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> he posts about it at 1:30 in the a.m.

On the toidy, no doubt.

(Sorry for that picture. Here’s the brain bleach.)

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Hasn’t he paid people to perform at his rallies?

Maybe he promised to pay them, then stiffed them, and insists that he’s complying with election law by doing so.

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My favorite part…

> Thank you for your attention to this matter!!!

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