# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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Dear God. It just gets worse. And it’s not close to the lowest the will go…

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1730 "2025-07-14T12:24:01Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Please do not compare Calvin to a vacuous toddler who shits his diaper 5 times a day whose stuffed tiger has the personality of a freshly-opened block of casu martzu.

What’s the difference between trump and Calvin from ‘Calvin and Hobbes’?

One is a vacuous toddler who shits his diaper 5 times a day, and the other is a fictional child in a comic strip.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1731 "2025-07-14T12:57:24Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> What’s the difference between trump and Calvin from ‘Calvin and Hobbes’?

The difference is that Calvin makes sense. Calvin Ball makes more sense than Trump.

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> [@solost](#):
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> One is a vacuous toddler who shits his diaper 5 times a day, and the other is a fictional child in a comic strip.

Damn, I wish Trump was the fictional one.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> The Epstein files are on Pam Bondi’s desk right now, but also they do not exist; but also they _do_ exist, and were written by Obama and Hillary when Epstein died in 2019, when the President was Donald Trump.’ - Brian Tyler Cohen

Ah. Schrodinger’s Files…

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1734 "2025-07-14T14:33:11Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Ah. Schrodinger’s Files…

Baffle 'em with bullshit. Trumps business model, now presented from the Oval Office.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1735 "2025-07-14T15:02:50Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> There is an article published today indicating that trump claims Obama forged all of the Epstein files.

This is confirmation, if there was any doubt, that the Epstein files are juicy and incriminating. Pass the popcorn.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> This is confirmation, if there was any doubt, that the Epstein files are juicy and incriminating.

Yep, and I’m guessing that the previous administration didn’t release the files because of the all-encompassing incrimination contained therein.

But just a guess.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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And if Obama wrote them, you know they will be literate, well-written, grammatically correct, and entertaining. With big words, too. Bring 'em on!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1738 "2025-07-14T15:12:19Z")

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I have a mental image of Trump as Daffy Duck, exploding with rage and shouting “IT’S A LIE! He’s Jack! My name is … Aloysius!”

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1739 "2025-07-14T15:15:37Z")

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Oh, you’re Jack all right, and you know it because it is a fact.

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**Author:** ![RAWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@RAWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RAWDuke)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1740 "2025-07-14T18:01:21Z")

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One of many, many things I don’t understand…  
There can’t be just one paper copy of this “list” that somehow got CYA shredded.  
Why hasn’t somebody leaked it? Years ago?  
(Sorry if this has been asked up-thread)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1741 "2025-07-14T18:26:16Z")

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> [@RAWDuke](#):
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> There can’t be just one paper copy of this “list” that somehow got CYA shredded.

It’s a paper list? Do we know that?

There are probably a dozen people that have copies of it. Digitally.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1742 "2025-07-14T18:33:03Z")

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Anybody in the admin while simultaneously disloyal enough to leak is probably at risk of getting outed pretty quickly given the relatively few people who have full access. That’s a risk to be weighed, and I’m not convinced any principles these people putatively possess are sufficient to overcome their self-preservation instinct.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1743 "2025-07-14T21:50:48Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Professor at a California State University abducted by ICE while assisting a disabled bystander who was overcome by a tear gas canister during an ICE raid.

Ken White (“Popehat”) is covering this story closely, including the blatant violations of the professor’s due process being committed by the fascists:

> **[Sedatious Hat (@kenwhite.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/kenwhite.bsky.social/post/3ltumbebb5c2w)**
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> Let’s talk about Professor Jonathan Caravello, who teaches math and philosophy at CSU Channel Islands. He’s been detained by the feds based on events at a protest in Ventura County on...

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Time to start hunting for Obama’s **real** birth certificate again?

Not even Donald would believe that THAT one would work again.

As for Obama being the supposed author of the Epstein files: in addition to the problem of Trump being the President when the bulk of the files were being collected by the FBI (Epstein was arrested and jailed in 2019), there is also the issue of why Bill Barr (or other Trump appointee) would have accepted files “made up” to harm Donald, from Obama.

I mean, it’s going to be a hard sell for even the most dedicated conspiracy theorists.

And what became of the files when Donald ceased being President? Common sense suggests that they might have been heavily mucked-about-with before Merrick Garland could get his own hands on them…

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> before Merrick Garland could get his own hands on them…

Also Merrick Garland would need to get his thumb out of his ass first.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> in addition to the problem of Trump being the President when the bulk of the files were being collected

I don’t see how this part is a problem for him.

The number of idiots “outraged” that Obama was golfing on the morning of 9/11 is truly astounding.

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Also Merrick Garland would need to get his thumb out of his ass first.

I tend to agree, though we should expect those of other views (of MG) to weigh in.

> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> I don’t see how this part is a problem for him.
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> The number of idiots “outraged” that Obama was golfing on the morning of 9/11 is truly astounding.

True, the existence of so much idiocy does aid Trump in making his fiction stick.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> The number of idiots “outraged” that Obama was golfing on the morning of 9/11 is truly astounding.

I thought his pastime of choice was basketball…

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1748 "2025-07-16T17:09:31Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I thought his pastime of choice was basketball…

He used really, really big clubs on the court to do that.

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