# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)

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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964 "2025-02-06T18:32:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> They’re wind _generators!_

I thought they generated electricity.

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> They’re not milling anything.

Not totally true. A mill can be a name for a building that manufactures something. A windmill manufactures electricity from wind, much as a steel mill manufactures steel from iron and other materials.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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Good point. 🤪 They mill wind down into electrons.

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> [@Hoops](#):
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> I’m glad Parker and Stone are doing this, especially as they are a major influence on the totally gettable dudebro cohort, which we now understand to be an important constituency.

100% this.

It’s also important more generally, as a sign that many people are refusing to stay silent (as a means of avoiding attracting the dictator’s wrath). They, and Stephen Colbert, are doing more for democracy than any random eighty House Democrats (sad to say).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Even eighty might be lowballing it.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1894 "2025-07-28T02:36:40Z")

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You probably know this, but it’s not about global warming or renewables or energy policy. Most Trump policy can be determined simply by applying the Himes test:

[Donald Trump is a little bit of a single-celled organism: He responds to one stimulus and one stimulus only, which is, ‘Does this make me feel good, or does it make me feel bad?’](https://www.alternet.org/trump-putin-2667453555/)

> **[Scottish government wins Donald Trump wind power legal costs](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-47400641)**
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> Donald Trump had claimed the 11-turbine wind farm off Aberdeen would spoil the view from his golf course.

Windmills inconvenienced him and he associates them with losing so they make him feel bad. That’s it.

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> [Scottish government wins Donald Trump wind power legal costs](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-47400641)
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> Windmills inconvenienced him and he associates them with losing so they make him feel bad. That’s it.

Sancho Panza had no comment.

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A little praise, TACO folds.

> **[US drops sanctions on Myanmar junta allies after military praises Trump](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-26/us-drops-sanctions-on-myanmar-junta-allies-after-trump-praise/105576812)**
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> The United States has lifted sanctions on several allies of Myanmar's ruling generals and their military-linked companies in a move that has prompted concern from politicians and rights groups.

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Help me understand this winning?

> <https://x.com/JosephPolitano/status/1949539554009948295?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1949539554009948295%7Ctwgr%5E8e0eecd7ef6299439b364d4ac40b79086d3f5203%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.twz.com%2Fnews-features%2Fbunker-talk-lets-talk-about-all-the-things-we-did-and-didnt-cover-this-week-153>

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/1898 "2025-07-28T07:28:26Z")

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That isn’t necessarily nonsensical as a matter of pure logic. The steel and parts could in theory be made in the US. Or the imported value of steel and parts could be a sufficiently small percentage of the cost of the whole vehicle that the higher tariff on those items still totals to less than 15% of the value of the whole vehicle.

In the real world this is unlikely to be true however.

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Yes, this. Trump fucks up left, right, up, down and center. And he’s complaining about free ‘energy?’ (I know nothing is free). Some people feel the fourth dimension is time. He fucks up there too.

This is a man that has a gold plated toilet, and these beautiful windmills offend his sense of taste? This is a man that uses ketchup on an overdone stake, and he doesn’t like the look of windmills? This billionaire can’t wear clothing that fits, and windmills are ugly? This person applies appalling orange makeup on the front of his face, often missing large parts. His hair is another sad commentary on his completely failed attempt to look better. Yet these beautiful windmills that are a testament to humans ability to think, to grab an idea, to overcome, to make the world a better place. Somehow these windmills offended him.

Seriously, I think he thinks that they create wind.

I guess it’s because they are the total antithesis of what he is. They are good.

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> In the real world this is unlikely to be true however.

Right. For one thing, domestic producers of steel and parts are likely to increase their prices as demand rises, putting more money in their pockets (and allowing them to invest in new facilities, if they think this tariff situation will last long enough for that investment to pay off).

The latter factor - that our tariff situation is dependent on the whims of one mercurial man - is going to crater business investment in new plant and equipment until there is a stable situation - high tariff, low tariff, whatever - where businesses can make long-term plans. Right now, businesses have been investing mostly in imported inputs and goods in the hope of getting them in before a large tariff can be levied on them; this is not a sustainable path for growth in the long term.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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> [@bobot](#):
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> Good point. 🤪 They mill wind down into electrons.

When come back bring a kilo of electrons. 🙂

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That would be approximately 1.1 x 1030 electrons.

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However, if they were all in one place by themselves then you [might be in for a bad time](https://what-if.xkcd.com/140/)

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I guess it’s because they are the total antithesis of what he is. They are good.

Hate what you don’t understand, Fear what you Hate.

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We have always been at war with electrons.

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Seriously, I think he thinks that they create wind.

WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

Tell that to the orange stain in the White House. It would be like debating with a Flat Earther.

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Tell that to the orange stain in the White House.

“Oh yeah, smart guy? Then why is it that every time they spin around, it’s windy?!”

“The wind is turning them, that’s how they work.”

“And then they make more wind! I know, because I’ve seen it! Everyone knows this. And when it gets windy, people get tears in their eyes; big, strong men…”

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