# How heavily censored will the SJW future be?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 12, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113 "2017-09-12T00:10:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/101 "2017-09-12T04:36:45Z")

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> [@Trafalgar\_Laura](#):
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> Wait, so what does it mean if I do say I’m a Marxist SJW…?

Why can’t you just not hate Western civilization?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/102 "2017-09-12T04:37:27Z")

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I thought you promised you weren’t going to start these BS threads again.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/103 "2017-09-12T04:41:54Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> I wish you’d just come out and say you’re an SJW. But you won’t. Marxists are liars.

> [@Trafalgar\_Laura](#):
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> Wait, so what does it mean if I do say I’m a Marxist SJW…?

How about a lying Marxist? Which door do you open then?

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**Author:** ![Trafalgar\_Laura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trafalgar_laura/32/2907_2.png) [@Trafalgar\_Laura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trafalgar_Laura)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/104 "2017-09-12T04:42:48Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> Why can’t you just not hate Western civilization?

Because it feels good, man, good.

And here’s some more real truth, we ARE coming for the dicks! All of them! Soon all of the penises in Western Civilization will lie severed at our feet! And we will laugh, and laugh, and laugh!

BWA HA HA HA HA!

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/105 "2017-09-12T04:42:56Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> These people are taking over, and will, in my lifetime, run the world and put anyone who disagrees in prison. That is the logical (and historical) endpoint of all Puritanical and Far-Left ideas.

It’s the suede-denim secret police; they have come for your uncool niece.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/106 "2017-09-12T04:45:14Z")

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Mods, is it possible (and within the rules) to petition for someone to be banned? This is just embarrassing.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/107 "2017-09-12T04:45:59Z")

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> [@Trafalgar\_Laura](#):
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> Wait, so what does it mean if I do say I’m a Marxist SJW…?

If his head explodes, _you’re_ cleaning it up.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/108 "2017-09-12T04:46:10Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> …I just refuse to hang out with SJWs…

And we thank you.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/109 "2017-09-12T04:50:04Z")

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What I want to know is why he named himself after [Helen Reddy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpu_PV3BTfI)

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/110 "2017-09-12T04:53:57Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> What I want to know is why he named himself after [Helen Reddy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpu_PV3BTfI)

He is loser; hear him roar.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/111 "2017-09-12T04:55:15Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Mods, is it possible (and within the rules) to petition for someone to be banned? This is just embarrassing.

Well, in the Pit, sure, I don’t see why not.

I wouldn’t try it in any other forums, though.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/112 "2017-09-12T05:08:17Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> Another defining characteristic of SJWs is that they resort to insults when people point out what they are, with ‘snowflake’\* and ‘Nazi’ being key favorites.
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> \*=Snowflake having started life as an Alt-Right insult, has since been co-opted by SJWs.

No, I’m telling it like it is. Why are you crying and whining about it? Should I be more PC, maybe take your shitty childhood and lack of firing neurons into account? Why should I have to censor myself for you?

Holy shit…you’re an SJW.

I give it less than 24 hours before another teary “I’m Sorry Guys, Please Don’t Be So Mean!” thread.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/113 "2017-09-12T05:12:42Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> He is loser; hear him roar.

Here is woe, man. Hear him bore.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/114 "2017-09-12T05:16:54Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> No, I’m telling it like it is. Why are you crying and whining about it? Should I be more PC, maybe take your shitty childhood and lack of firing neurons into account? Why should I have to censor myself for you?
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> Holy shit…you’re an SJW.
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> I give it less than 24 hours before another teary “I’m Sorry Guys, Please Don’t Be So Mean!” thread.

Gotta wait for the meth to wear mostly off for that. Then a few days of nothing while he finally sleeps. Then full on idiotrage when he reups and gets bored of porn again.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/115 "2017-09-12T05:37:26Z")

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> [@Trafalgar\_Laura](#):
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> Wait, so what does it mean if I do say I’m a Marxist SJW…?

I prefer the Three Stooges to the Marx Brothers myself.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/116 "2017-09-12T06:17:21Z")

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Pity our snowflake OP. If only we’d offered him a trigger warning before he signed up here, maybe he wouldn’t be so upset about his safe space being violated.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/117 "2017-09-12T06:26:15Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> I hate SJWs. With a burning passion. I hate them. They had to come in MY time? One day, every single bit of media I love will be restricted, or altered to fit the needs of the party, or come with some fucking trigger warning. It had to be in MY LIFETIME???

To re-emphasize a point I hope I have already made clear to the overly-anxious OP:

> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> What did the Puritans do to people who didn’t conform to their belief system?

Before your lifetime.

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> What did the Catholic Church do to “heretics”?

Before your lifetime.

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> What did the Maoists do to those who didn’t go along with the Cultural Revolution?

Before your lifetime.

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> What did the Castro brothers do in Cuba to those who disagreed with the Revolution?

Before your lifetime.

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> What goes on in North Korea regarding those who disagree with Kim?

(Ah, yes. NK, the model state of the SJW experiment.)

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> What did Woodrow Wilson do with suspected or confirmed Anarchists and Socialists?

Before your lifetime.

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> What has any revolutionary, overzealous group which claims to hold moral superiority (religious or secular) ever done but oppress and murder dissident voices?

The tyrannical oppression you are forced to slave beneath in your unfortunate lot in life: \* A society willing to engage in healthy discussion of gender and cultural representations in media!\*

Exactly what time and place would you prefer to live?  
(And is there a croud-fund we can contribute toward to help get you there?)

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/118 "2017-09-12T06:29:11Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> No, I’m telling it like it is. Why are you crying and whining about it? Should I be more PC, maybe take your shitty childhood and lack of firing neurons into account? Why should I have to censor myself for you?
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> Holy shit…you’re an SJW.
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> I give it less than 24 hours before another teary “I’m Sorry Guys, Please Don’t Be So Mean!” thread.

To be honest, I probably honestly do have pretty severe emotional problems, and I’m not saying that as a joke. But, I am trying to better my behavior by not clogging up the main forums. I did start this thread in the Pit so as to not spam up the main forums. I don’t know what would make me happier. If the Internet was more like real life, it might be nicer. In real life, unless you’re at a protest, politics usually doesn’t seem so extreme. Most people just want to live and get by. Perhaps I should just try to not read any political threads on here. Outside of those I’m not a bad poster. I also really need to see a psychiatrist when I have the money to afford one.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/119 "2017-09-12T06:40:24Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> The tyrannical oppression you are forced to slave beneath in your unfortunate lot in life: \* A society willing to engage in healthy discussion of gender and cultural representations in media!\*
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> Exactly what time and place would you prefer to live?  
> (And is there a croud-fund we can contribute toward to help get you there?)

I’m fine with addressing gender, and cultural expressions in media.  
What ticks me off is things like Coate’s essay which decries whiteness itself as the end of civilization; or Salon’s article about how 'white men must be stopped."

One of my favorite recent movies is Rogue One. Not a single white male in a leading role and I enjoyed it nonetheless, very much so. A movie I’m excited to see is the remake of Aladdin, which has a cast which is 99% people of color. I don’t really care what color an actor is, nor do I want to see people of color represented in a negative light in a movie. While I like Gone with the Wind, mostly because of the love story and because I’m a Clark Gable fan, I’m happy we’ve moved beyond the time when black women were presented as “Mammies.”

My issue isn’t with Blacks, or People of Color in general. It’s more with White Liberals. In my experience, it’s White Liberals who talk more about race, in a negative dark way, than People of Color do. I’m not saying we should never talk about it. But the way in which its spoken about can be incendiary.

No one outside of the Klan or perhaps Stormfront would deny certain groups - Blacks, Native Americans, Jews, Asians, and to lesser extents, Hispanics, the Irish, and the Italians - have been mistreated in society. No one would deny that there are still instances of institutional bigotry and injustice, such as gerymandering or Voter ID laws or police brutality.

But, while we’re not perfect yet, we \*have \*improved. What irks me is when White Liberals, or White Progressives to be more precise, act is if we’re worse than ever. What irks me is when they say America has never been a great country. A country can be great, and greatly flawed, at the same time, and that’s what I feel America is and has been. I love my city (NYC), I love my country, and I just dislike when people think that rather than fixing the problems we have, we need a complete overhaul of the system.

I also get riled up over the calls for Socialism. Elements of Socialism, like the New Deal had, are fine. But hearing people condemn Capitalism (even in regulated form) as the greatest evil known to man angers me. It’s like such people chose to forget Stalin, Mao and the Khmer Rouge.

I wouldn’t want to live in any other time but the present. My anger comes from the feeling that the Far Left automatically assumes things about me because I’m a white guy. Others here have said that’s not the case, but while people here may be well-intentioned, that’s not how it comes off in the media. It comes off as more like, if you’re a white male, you’re racist and evil until proven innocent.

I’d just like to live in a present where racial relations are better. Where a sense of equality can exist. Real equality. And that’s I feel where Progressives and I differ the most, on what real equality means.

I go Jekyll and Hyde on this stuff though. It’s a problem I have. I can be very reasonable and want the best for the country, and other times I am just consumed with hate. It’s a problem. I say it not out of a desire of sympathy; it is simply is how it is.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/120 "2017-09-12T06:43:40Z")

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Sure thing, Helen. Or can I call you Nelly?

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