# How heavily censored will the SJW future be?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 12, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113 "2017-09-12T00:10:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/121 "2017-09-12T06:50:50Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> Sure thing, Helen. Or can I call you Nelly?

Nelly’s fine. Gollum is probably more fitting, though.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/122 "2017-09-12T06:51:14Z")

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Well. **Reddy** , I had some empathy for you because I know things aren’t the greatest for you. But I see now why your family is estranged from you. You really do sound like you’re coming unhinged and I don’t mean that in a patronizing way. Please just step back from whatever you’re reading, watching, and from posting on this board. I hope you’ll focus on something besides anger and politics.

We all love a good train wreck, but this one is scary.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/123 "2017-09-12T06:55:12Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> Well. **Reddy** , I had some empathy for you because I know things aren’t the greatest for you. But I see now why your family is estranged from you. You really do sound like you’re coming unhinged and I don’t mean that in a patronizing way. Please just step back from whatever you’re reading, watching, and from posting on this board. I hope you’ll focus on something besides anger and politics.
> 
> We all love a good train wreck, but this one is scary.

When I’m not talking about politics, if you’ll notice, I’m not nasty or cruel. For whatever reason, politics just brings out this other person. I get so worked up in it and so fucking enraged. Politics is like a drug. I don’t watch sports, I don’t watch soap operas, so for me politics is the equivalent.

My family is estranged from me for reasons that actually are not of my own making. They’re genuinely unkind people. Actually, their estrangement, and their lifelong favoritism of others over me, is part of what festers my anger.

When I’m talking about movies or TV or music, I’m a nice person. It’s like there’s two me’s. Which is sad, really.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/124 "2017-09-12T06:58:05Z")

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If it brings out the worst in you, stay away from it. Why feed the anger? It’s not doing you or anyone else any good. I like the other **Reddy**. This one, I don’t.

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/125 "2017-09-12T07:07:03Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Do what I do. Ignore 'em. They’re not worth my giving any thought to. In fact, I’m good at ignoring any shit that doesn’t directly affect me.

…when they come for you there will be no one left to speak out for you.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/126 "2017-09-12T07:10:31Z")

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> [@Latro](#):
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> …when they come for you there will be no one left to speak out for you.

First they came for the clowns, and I said nothing, because I was a mime.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/127 "2017-09-12T07:12:57Z")

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Cast off the One Ring, listen to **Helena** , stay away from politics, keep out of the Pit, stick to Cafe Society.  
Good luck.

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**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/128 "2017-09-12T07:15:58Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> In the case of that last thread (“Who are good white-male historical figures?”), he eventually [disavowed the thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20455054#post20455054), calling it “stupid and immature”. And then he had an [apology thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=835219), in which he claimed to be “not a Nazi, nor a Nazi-sympathizer, nor a Confederate sympathizer, nor a Neo-Confederate, nor a white supremacist of any sort, nor a Fascist or Fascist sympathizer of any sort.”
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> And then he starts yet another bullshit thread (i.e., this one). I knew he was a troll when he claimed to like Brutalist architecture.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt previously, as a slightly immature but sincere twenty-something surrounded by idiots.

After the umpteenth thread where he indulges paranoid alt-right and manosphere fantasies and talking points about “SJWs”, I have difficulty believing he is not a troll.

Any good recipes?

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/129 "2017-09-12T07:32:39Z")

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Believe it or not, he’s not a bad kid. He’s got a lot going on in his life and he needs to STFU sometimes 🙂 but I there’s a good guy in there.

Signed,

Feminist SJW

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/130 "2017-09-12T07:50:31Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> Leftist: “Anyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi!!!1"”
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> No, **FUCK THE NAZIS.** But also FUCK sissy politically correct BULLSHIT too.

[I see you missed my earlier advice to you.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18531964&postcount=1)

I am curious, though, how anyone today can have a complete lack of understanding of the word “Nazi”. You seem to have no idea of how to use it correctly, even as an insult.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/131 "2017-09-12T07:53:54Z")

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For some reason, **Reddy** reminds me of the Billy Joel song “Angry Young Man.”

_And there’s always a place for the angry young man  
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand  
He’s never been able to learn from mistakes  
He can’t understand why his heart always breaks  
His honor is pure, and his courage as well  
He’s fair and he’s true, and he’s boring as hell  
And he’ll go to his grave as an angry old man._

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/132 "2017-09-12T07:56:44Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> For some reason, **Reddy** reminds me of the Billy Joel song “Angry Young Man.”
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> _And there’s always a place for the angry young man  
> With his fist in the air and his head in the sand  
> He’s never been able to learn from mistakes  
> He can’t understand why his heart always breaks  
> His honor is pure, and his courage as well  
> He’s fair and he’s true, and he’s boring as hell  
> And he’ll go to his grave as an angry old man._

You know what’s funny as hell? My mother - I swear this on my dead grandfather - always said the same exact thing. That that song could apply to me. You’re honestly not the first to say that. My own mother used to. Jesus. What could’ve been if my dad had actually loved me…Fuck.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/133 "2017-09-12T08:02:56Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [I see you missed my earlier advice to you.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18531964&postcount=1)
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> I am curious, though, how anyone today can have a complete lack of understanding of the word “Nazi”. You seem to have no idea of how to use it correctly, even as an insult.

The Nazis hated pretty much everyone who didn’t conform to some mystical ideal of a superhuman, with Occult-ish overtunes about the lost civilization of Thule, whose whole creed was based around the hatred of Jews and extermination of both the Jews and anyone deemed undesirable…Which is why I get pretty angry when called such. Love the Jews, don’t hate gays, don’t hate the disabled. I lean in my worst moments toward Fascist overtones but of the Franco variety. I don’t approve of Hitler or Nazism. Whatever good Hitler might have done in his life was vastly outdone by T-4 and the Holocaust. Calling someone a Nazi is not a charge that should be taken lately. It’s a way overused word in political speech, especially as of late.

Like Trump. I don’t think he’s a Nazi. I don’t think he could even tell you anything about Fascism or Hitler, really, if you asked him. I think he has supporters who are Neo-Nazis, but I think he fancies himself a strongman with no real ideology. He’s most akin to a Russian oligarch than anything else. Hitler and Mussolini had, for all their evil, ideologies which drove their actions. Trump’s incompetent because he is driven by whatever impulse he has at the moment. He has nothing to drive him outside of momentary gain. Trump’s only ideology is what best serves Trump. I don’t think Trump is even necessarily a true White Nationalist. Steve Bannon may have been, but Trump just strikes me of a class of his own. He’s a Trump Nationalist. I think he just sides with the White Nationalists because they’re the only diehard supporters he has. If the LGBT community was his base I think he’d pander to them just as hard.

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**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/134 "2017-09-12T08:20:34Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> I will live to see the U.S. become akin to Rhodesia.

Like having a leader that gives the thumbs up to white racists, supremacists and seperatists?

You’re already there; Trump is more like Ian Smith than you realise.

Or did you mean Zimbabwe with Mugabe at the helm? For a 27 year old American to refer to Zimbabwe as “Rhodesia” is more than a little odd, it strongly implies that you’re getting your news from rabidly far-right websites.

Maybe you should give the Daily Stormer a rest.

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/135 "2017-09-12T08:27:03Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> One can only take so much shit until they have enough mentally. The SJWs are like the mice in my house. They will never, ever go away, and will only get bolder as time goes by. I will live to see Mt. Rushmore destroyed. I will live to see problematic films and books outlawed. I will live to see the U.S. become akin to **Rhodesia**.

Bolding Mine.

A country run by a tiny white minority that starts a brutal war and resorts to terrorism just to try and maintain its dominance over the black majority?

That is what you think the US is turning into?

Fuck you’re stupid.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/136 "2017-09-12T08:36:47Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> Actually, their estrangement, and their lifelong favoritism of others over me, is part of what festers my anger.

Dude, you’re not a villain in a Shakespeare play, get the fuck over yourself. Paranoia and entitlement much?

Also, “festers my anger” is shitty English.

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**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/137 "2017-09-12T08:39:51Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> The SJWs number in the millions. They have hold over both organized and new media (See Buzzfeed, MTV, etc). They’re much louder and in your face.

(dammit struggling with multi-quote)

A question for other participants in the thread:

This is the second time this week that I have heard MTV referred to as some sort of “SJW” haven.

I don’t understand this - wasn’t MTV a music channel that now mainly broadcasts mediocre series for teens and college age adults? What happened?

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/138 "2017-09-12T08:41:34Z")

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I knew this silly little bitch would flame out eventually.

The pale, frail, mommy’s-basement dwelling trolls never grasp their own transparency. You mean you weren’t just asking questions?

Get a job, punk.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/139 "2017-09-12T08:44:07Z")

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> [@WilyQuixote](#):
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> Maybe you should give the Daily Stormer a rest.

Thankfully, [not a problem currently](https://www.timesofisrael.com/austria-domain-name-rejects-neo-nazi-website-daily-stormer/).

But yes, use of “Rhodesia” is a giant red flag. With a white circle and some black lines on it.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-heavily-censored-will-the-sjw-future-be/796113/140 "2017-09-12T09:02:17Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> What I want to know is why he named himself after [Helen Reddy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpu_PV3BTfI)

I thought he was some sort of sinister manifestation of [this guy](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/N6EAAOSwv0tVSsfn/s-l300.jpg).

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