# How I Feel Aboit The US These Days **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874 "2018-01-31T14:37:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/21 "2018-01-31T15:36:56Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > I wouldn’t cheer a guy for sucking off the entire high school football team. Well, if it was [at the same time](http://www.montrealgazette.com/cms/binary/6820722.jpg) I’d be pretty impressed. (Link safe for work.) ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/22 "2018-01-31T15:47:46Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Just so you know… This is a fiercely anti-Trump message board. The sentiment you posted, while not phrased very tactfully, is neither new nor particularly insightful. We have many active anti-Trump threads in the Pit that you could have posted in, rather than start a “Trump is teh suxxor!1” thread. People are giving you shit because: Your OP didn’t add anything to what’s already here and you used an analogy that, especially these days, is an insult to women in general. > > Other than that, carry on! long time reader of the board, so you’re not telling me anything new. This is not, to me anyway, another Trump sucks thread. As I said, he’ll be gone one way or the other in a few years, but the US will always be stained by having voted him in, just as we are by things like the Japanese internment. And if a woman wants to suck off the whole football team more power too her. I didn’t call the hypothetical woman a slut, I said I could never look at her the same way. Answer my question: would you castigate a woman if she had a different view of a man after she learned a potential partner had slept with a a few dozen women over a weekend? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/23 "2018-01-31T15:48:38Z")
You chose a poor analogy. Instead of implying that the reason that you can’t look at her the same way against is because she engaged in sexual behavior that you feel is immoral, how about other behavior that is a bit more universally considered immoral. Say, one day, she casually mentions that when she goes into a Mcdonald’s, she breaks the lock on the Ronald Mcdonald house charity collection, and steals the money. Or she mentions that one of her hobbies is clubbing baby seals, or homeless people. Or she invites you to her dog fighting ring. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/24 "2018-01-31T15:52:50Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > And if a woman wants to suck off the whole football team more power too her. I didn’t call the hypothetical woman a slut, I said I could never look at her the same way. Maybe with a new found respect? I didn’t get that vibe from your OP. Anyway, I’d have a lot more respect for that young woman than I would if she had voted for Trump. That would be disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/25 "2018-01-31T15:59:57Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > You chose a poor analogy. > > Instead of implying that the reason that you can’t look at her the same way against is because she engaged in sexual behavior that you feel is immoral, how about other behavior that is a bit more universally considered immoral. > > Say, one day, she casually mentions that when she goes into a Mcdonald’s, she breaks the lock on the Ronald Mcdonald house charity collection, and steals the money. > > Or she mentions that one of her hobbies is clubbing baby seals, or homeless people. > > Or she invites you to her dog fighting ring. I didn’t say the hypothetical behavior was immoral, just something that would forever color my opinion of someone. But yes, your analogies are better. I was looking for something more than “pronouncing the T in often” which also changes my view of someone (if they are a native speaker). ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/26 "2018-01-31T16:01:20Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Anyway, I’d have a lot more respect for that young woman than I would if she had voted for Trump. That would be disgusting. Agreed ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/27 "2018-01-31T16:05:21Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > long time reader of the board, so you’re not telling me anything new. This is not, to me anyway, another Trump sucks thread. As I said, he’ll be gone one way or the other in a few years, but the US will always be stained by having voted him in, just as we are by things like the Japanese internment. That’s a good point, because no one has brought that up here before. > [@](#): > > And if a woman wants to suck off the whole football team more power too her. I didn’t call the hypothetical woman a slut, I said I could never look at her the same way. > > Answer my question: would you castigate a woman if she had a different view of a man after she learned a potential partner had slept with a a few dozen women over a weekend? It’s a stupid analogy and a stupid question. Other than that, carry on! ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/28 "2018-01-31T16:14:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Other than that, carry on! Thank you for your petmission, it means the world to me. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/29 "2018-01-31T16:15:58Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > Thank you for your petmission, it means the world to me. He gave you the petmission? Dammit John, that was mine. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/30 "2018-01-31T16:42:19Z")
Your petmission, if you should choose to accept it… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/31 "2018-01-31T16:43:13Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Just so you know… This is a fiercely anti-Trump message board. We fierce, man. We so fierce. > [@Morgenstern](#): > > He gave you the petmission? > > Dammit John, that was mine. We’re all aboit the petmission. ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/32 "2018-01-31T16:44:01Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > He gave you the petmission? > > Dammit John, that was mine. it was this guy’s first: [ace ventura - Google Search](https://www.google.ge/search?q=ace+ventura&oq=ace+ventura&aqs=chrome..69i57.6049j0j4&client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=c_qbcGbnb7Xg2M:) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/33 "2018-01-31T16:44:32Z")
It’s a fiercely _anti-ignorance_ message board. Opposing Trump is just one inevitable consequence. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/34 "2018-01-31T16:46:30Z")
[Yes, I’m familiar with the feeling you’re describing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4qPTIwaOAM). Although your analogy doesn’t work for me. I could love and respect the girl next door and applaud her for sucking off the whole football team (especially if it were something she wanted to do for her own reasons)… but that’s tangential… I became disillusioned with America (political system and culture alike) as a young adult. Became more optimistic about slow change and meaningful progress and all that through my 30s 40s and 50s. Now I’m sort of back in the disillusioned zone. In particular I doubt that I’ll ever view the Presidency itself as having any inherent dignity and gravitas. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/35 "2018-01-31T16:54:33Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Or she mentions that one of her hobbies is clubbing baby seals, Baby seals is good. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/36 "2018-01-31T17:01:22Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > How can I ever look at the US the same way as I did before the election? You can’t fight [The Seether](http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/52309/). America, like every other nation or the slutty girl next door, is complex and has its noxious elements which defy the airbrush. The closer you look, the more you know, the less simple it becomes. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/37 "2018-01-31T17:10:10Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Or she mentions that one of her hobbies is clubbing baby seals, or homeless people. Or clubbing baby seals with homeless people. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/38 "2018-01-31T17:18:19Z")
I’d give her mad props (do the kids still say “mad props”) if she could go back in time and club baby Seal–then we wouldn’t be subjected to that grave-rose kissing song. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/39 "2018-01-31T17:29:20Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > Imagine that you were in love with the girl next door. She is smart, kind to animals, and laughs at your jokes. She isn’t a supermodel, but has wholesome good look’s and a cute little gap between her front teeth. You are totally smitten. Then one day she casually mentions that she willingly sucked off the entire high school football team one weekend. Could you ever look at her the same way again? > > That’s how I feel about the US since they elected Trump. He is a pig, a conman, a bigot, and a moron. The least qualified person to ever run on a major party ticket. And still, just under half of the voters cast their votes for him. If just white people had voted, then he would have won the popular vote in a landslide. > > Someday Trump will be out of office, but the voters will still be here. How can I ever look at the US the same way as I did before the election? Just keep trusting in evolution. It takes a long time, but have patience. Long game. Long, long game. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/40 "2018-01-31T17:29:33Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > who cares? > [@Batano](#): > > You obviously, or you wouldn’t have bothered to reply Sorry, but as ripostes go “you obviously care because you just spent 30 seconds or less typing a two-word reply” is the lamest of the lame. My interpretation of **jz78817’s post** is simply this: why should anyone else be concerned about how you (the OP) “look at” the United States? I dislike Trump and his idiot voters as much as the next guy, and probably more than most, but I don’t pretend that this has any practical effect on anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874.md?page=3)