# How I Feel Aboit The US These Days

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874 "2018-01-31T14:37:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/61 "2018-01-31T22:46:52Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> Imagine that you were in love with the girl next door. She is smart, kind to animals, and laughs at your jokes. She isn’t a supermodel, but has wholesome good look’s and a cute little gap between her front teeth. You are totally smitten. Then one day she casually mentions that she willingly sucked off the entire high school football team one weekend. Could you ever look at her the same way again?

Fuck off. Because a) that’s the wrong analogy and b) in that analogy, who the FUCK are you to judge what the girl next door tried to maybe be happy ?

No. Here’s a better analogy : the US is like the girl next door yadda yadda boner. Then you learn she voted for Trump and casually mentions illegals should be put against the wall.  
Not Trump’s wall that is. The proverbial one. The one they shoot you against.

NOW you’ve got the right analogy.

The girl next door who sucked the football team ? She’s a cool girl, or maybe just an okay girl with issues. Maybe she regrets it all. %aybe she was looking for herself. Maybe she had issues. Maybe she wasn’t past that fucker Craig who used her and dumped her, and maybe that was her fucked up, misguided attempt to get even with him. Maybe she was in a self-destructive phase. Maybe yadda yadda lots of reasons to go against the grain. And fuck it, maybe it was just for fun and that’s ABSOLUTELY FINE. In the end, it’s just meat and nobody got hurt, so what the fuck ? You go, hypothetical girl.

The US has no such excuse for Trump. Fuck y’all. Forever.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/62 "2018-01-31T22:48:28Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Baby seals is good.

Indeed. There’s good eatin’ in thems.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/63 "2018-01-31T23:12:42Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Or clubbing baby seals with homeless people.

Do you mean along side homeless people, or using the homeless people as clubs?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/64 "2018-01-31T23:41:00Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> He is a pig, a conman, a bigot, and a moron. The least qualified person to ever run on a major party ticket. And still, just under half of the voters cast their votes for him. …Someday Trump will be out of office, but the voters will still be here. How can I ever look at the US the same way as I did before the election?

Just remember the other guys, the MAJORITY, who voted against him.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/65 "2018-01-31T23:42:17Z")

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> [@morgenstern](#):
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> do you have her phone number handy?

867-5309

I got it, I got it, I got the number on the wall. 🆒

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/66 "2018-01-31T23:43:24Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Anyway, I’d have a lot more respect for that young woman than I would if she had voted for Trump. That would be disgusting.

Agree.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/67 "2018-01-31T23:51:27Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Just remember the other guys, the MAJORITY, who voted against him.

Specifically, around 26% of eligible voters were sufficiently evil, stupid, irrational, or pig-ignorant enough to vote for the orange turd. Of course only 26% (okay, a marginally larger 26%) stirred themselves to vote against him.

These numbers will vary wildly by region, of course. For example in my county 55% of voters went for Trump. Yay.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/68 "2018-02-01T00:26:15Z")

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And our newest member to receive his very own participation trophy for this snoozefest of a thread.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/69 "2018-02-01T00:58:52Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> And our newest member to receive his very own participation trophy for this snoozefest of a thread.

At least he got all the stuff about trump right.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/70 "2018-02-01T01:37:55Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> Then one day she casually mentions that she willingly sucked off the entire high school football team one weekend.

[So the U.S. sucked 37 dicks? In a row?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfpVY_ZHGDg)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/71 "2018-02-01T02:56:02Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> This is how the US has always been. Bitterly culturally divided. Things may have appeared better on their face back when we had civility in politics, but the cultural rift in this country predates the US Civil War. As someone who grew up around KKK-country, there is nothing about Trump’s election that contradicts my previous understanding of the nation.

This is true, but it ignores the fact that we have had opportunities to bridge the racial and cultural divide, and we’ve had opportunities to do better in terms of economic parity. We failed.

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> The part that shocked me is how suddenly open people were willing to be about their baser natures to the point they were willing to back someone who is essentially Biff from _Back to the Future._ We have a culture that has long celebrated ruthlessness in the interest of success and self-aggrandization. Trump is just the natural consequence of our making heroes out of bullies.

Trump is a natural consequence of our collective ignorance and tolerance of people who abuse power, and more specifically, people who use their economic leverage to corrupt our institutions. Trump wasn’t the canary in the coal mine – he was the fucking mine explosion. The canaries came before 2016.

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> You appear to be judging an entire country based on one voting bloc. We aren’t a monolithic entity. We aren’t even split in _two_ as our two-party system suggests. We are hundreds of different cultural attitudes, ideas and experiences.

Like other countries are monoliths. The point is, other democratic societies are better educated and have safeguards that have protected against such corruption.

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Also, I’m getting the feeling that populism is on the rise globally. I don’t know if it’s a backlash from the sound byte social media culture or what, but it’s hardly just an American phenomenon.

That’s true, but other countries are in large part buying into populism because our country had a lot to do with their loss of faith in economic cooperation. We fucked up the financial system in 2008. We initiated a disastrous war in 2003 that destabilized North African and the Near East – which also created ISIS and the refugee crisis in Europe. To top it all off, we’re not only not apologetic about any of this mass disruption, we basically grab our balls and tell the whole world to suck it while we vote for a nationalist who tears up international environmental and economic agreements.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/72 "2018-02-01T06:01:15Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> Someday Trump will be out of office, but the voters will still be here. How can I ever look at the US the same way as I did before the election?

First off, nobody really cares about your opinion. But you might rethink your position when you realize that we were smart enough to NOT elect Hillary Clinton. I wish we could say the same about Obama, but it is what it is.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/73 "2018-02-01T06:04:17Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> **First off, nobody really cares about your opinion.** But you might rethink your position when you realize that we were smart enough to NOT elect Hillary Clinton. I wish we could say the same about Obama, but it is what it is.

Pretty much the same as what we think of your opinion. And your whole post is how we feel about Trump.  
So fuck off, head-kick boy.

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**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/74 "2018-02-01T06:51:58Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> Imagine that you were in love with the girl next door. She is smart, kind to animals, and laughs at your jokes. She isn’t a supermodel, but has wholesome good look’s and a cute little gap between her front teeth. You are totally smitten. Then one day she casually mentions that she willingly sucked off the entire high school football team one weekend. Could you ever look at her the same way again?
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> That’s how I feel about the US since they elected Trump. He is a pig, a conman, a bigot, and a moron. The least qualified person to ever run on a major party ticket. And still, just under half of the voters cast their votes for him. If just white people had voted, then he would have won the popular vote in a landslide.
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> Someday Trump will be out of office, but the voters will still be here. How can I ever look at the US the same way as I did before the election?

I’m more concerned about the football team. Gap between the teeth? Foreskin? _Ouch!_

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/75 "2018-02-01T09:11:30Z")

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Meanwhile, all the other towns in your state have _always_ known your neighbour as “The Whore of Omaha”…

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/76 "2018-02-01T11:16:54Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> This is how the US has always been. Bitterly culturally divided. Things may have appeared better on their face back when we had civility in politics, but the cultural rift in this country predates the US Civil War. As someone who grew up around KKK-country, there is nothing about Trump’s election that contradicts my previous understanding of the nation. The part that shocked me is how suddenly open people were willing to be about their baser natures to the point they were willing to back someone who is essentially Biff from _Back to the Future._ We have a culture that has long celebrated ruthlessness in the interest of success and self-aggrandization. Trump is just the natural consequence of our making heroes out of bullies.

You nailed it. It’s like Biff gave the sports almanac to Trump in 1955 instead of to his younger self.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/77 "2018-02-01T11:17:48Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> I wouldn’t cheer a guy for sucking off the entire high school football team.

Nor would I, but I’d applaud his stick-to-itiveness.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/78 "2018-02-01T12:02:34Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> First off, nobody really cares about your opinion. But you might rethink your position when you realize that we were smart enough to NOT elect Hillary Clinton. I wish we could say the same about Obama, but it is what it is.

For someone who doesn’t care about his opinion…you seem to have invested a lot of interest.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/79 "2018-02-01T13:42:37Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Nor would I, but I’d applaud his stick-to-itiveness.

Or his outrageous luck at finding an entire football team of gay/bi guys.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-feel-aboit-the-us-these-days/807874/80 "2018-02-01T14:28:27Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Or his outrageous luck at finding an entire football team of gay/bi guys.

Oh come on, ALL football players are latent gay/BI. That’s why they’re all hypermasculine 'phobes in need of the validation of millions of fans and the unconditional moral support of a dozen scantily clad sexywomen.

…COULD be true.

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