# How I Met Your Mother 2/20/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 21, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489 "2012-02-21T02:21:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/21 "2012-02-21T18:29:04Z")
> [@Disheavel](#): > > My prediction spoiler so not a real spoiler in any way, but one just out of courtesy: > > But there is a hanging plotline with the stripper and Barney yet. They had to leave it out of this episode to show his angst over Robin, but clearly he was riding the drunk train to find her again and we know that she is intrigued by Barney as well. So we now have a depressed Robin, an in-denial Barney, and a strip club plot line. (bonus points for Robin moving out of Ted’s apartment and needing a place to live/crash.) I think I am going to go out on an limb and say that Barney and Robin have their ultimate love-declaration with Lily’s doppelganger in attendance! And I predict this will happen during the birth day of Lily’s baby. The juxtaposition of birthing and dancing Lily would be awesome. I don’t think Barney was riding the drunk train to find the stripper. He met her as a friend of Ted’s date, not on the drunk train. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/22 "2012-02-21T18:39:21Z")
> [@digs](#): > > 'Cause I’d HATE it if the writers said “Ha! Any woman who doesn’t want kids doesn’t REALLY mean it…” Didn’t we just do this? The show has explicitly said “Robin never has children, biological or otherwise.” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/23 "2012-02-21T19:04:22Z")
> [@Disheavel](#): > > Not only did it finally end Ted and Robin, but it said that there is no more “I love you” until the mother. So it actually limits the intensity of any other relationships before the mother too.\ Maybe that’s what made it feel like we’re heading into the home stretch - we know that the next girl Ted gets serious about is THE ONE! Heh - I just remembered what Robin’s ex, Kevin Penn, said about the group not having any boundaries, and Lily and Marshal waking up with Barney in bed with them. Dude! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/24 "2012-02-21T19:22:53Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Maybe that’s what made it feel like we’re heading into the home stretch - we know that the next girl Ted gets serious about is THE ONE! She’s got to be. In eighteen years, Future Ted will be telling the story to his kids who look to be at least sixteen. That gives him two years to Meet their Mother, get married, and have them. Tick-tock. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/25 "2012-02-21T19:57:39Z")
I long ago quit caring who the mother is. Didn’t like that feeling of being strung along week after week knowing that we will never find out until the final episode. ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/26 "2012-02-21T21:08:34Z")
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode. The Ted-Robin ending was set up with the re-meet with Victoria, who said the reason Ted never had luck in relationships was because of Robin. Glad it’s over now. I suspect that Barney will marry Robin, simply because Ted agreed to be Robin’s best man, and in the scenes of Barney’s wedding, Lily comes and tells Ted that the Bride needs him. The bride wouldn’t need him unless he was best man for the bride as well as for the groom. Barney and Robin ovbiously love and care about each other. She was right to reject him for Kal, though, because Barney thought they should be together because they were both effed up, and Kal saw the good potential in her. Barney still has to grow a little more. And yes, we have the Quinn sub-plot to go through first. As far as Ted’s wife, he won’t meet her until the last epidosde and the show ends. So I’m finally reconciled to enjoying the ride. I, too, liked all the yellow umbrellas at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/27 "2012-02-21T21:30:56Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Didn’t we just do this? The show has explicitly said “Robin never has children, biological or otherwise.” You’re a pretty serious guy, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/28 "2012-02-21T21:50:21Z")
The show got markedly better simply by virtue is removing Kumar from the recurring cast. Bizarre since I really dig Kal Penn in just about everything else, he was one of my favorites in _House_. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/29 "2012-02-21T22:30:21Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > The show got markedly better simply by virtue is removing Kumar from the recurring cast. Bizarre since I really dig Kal Penn in just about everything else, he was one of my favorites in _House_. I never liked House, and the Obama administration started to do a lot better in polls since he left as well. I’m starting to think he just poisons everything he touches. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/30 "2012-02-21T22:51:35Z")
Did anyone else notice that the blue french horn was chained to the wall? I thought that was pretty funny. I’m also glad the Ted and Robin thing is over. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/31 "2012-02-22T00:07:39Z")
Didn’t the last scene with Marshall declining to pay up on the Ted/Robin bet with Lily kind of cast doubt on whether it was\* really \*over? Or was that just Marshall having a hard time facing reality? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/32 "2012-02-22T00:15:06Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > She’s got to be. In eighteen years, Future Ted will be telling the story to his kids who look to be at least sixteen. That gives him two years to Meet their Mother, get married, and have them. > > Tick-tock. The ages of Ted’s kids have never been given. While the actress who plays the daughter was 18 when the pilot was shot, I’d have no trouble believing she was younger. I think the writers have four years to birth a baby before all the fans will call foul. > [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > You’re a pretty serious guy, aren’t you? While it’s mention in this thread was pretty mild, the 1000 iterations of “Robin will end up having kids because TV writers hate childless women” has made me a little twitchy. I’m sorry if I o-fend. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/33 "2012-02-22T00:17:37Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > Didn’t the last scene with Marshall declining to pay up on the Ted/Robin bet with Lily kind of cast doubt on whether it was\* really \*over? Or was that just Marshall having a hard time facing reality? I suspect their setting up Marshall giving Lily a 20$ at Barney and Robin’s wedding. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/34 "2012-02-22T00:34:01Z")
> [@Tapiotar](#): > > \ > As far as Ted’s wife, he won’t meet her until the last epidosde and the show ends. So I’m finally reconciled to enjoying the ride. I hope not - I’d like to have a couple of episodes of over-the-moon happy Ted before the big finale. Maybe the big finale will be his wedding. > [@](#): > > I, too, liked all the yellow umbrellas at the end. Yup. I like that the show does little touches like that that aren’t totally based in reality - that was a nice metaphor for how any one of those single ladies could be Ted’s soulmate now. > [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > Did anyone else notice that the blue french horn was chained to the wall? I thought that was pretty funny. \ Yes, I did. 😃 > [@Simplicio](#): > > I suspect their setting up Marshall giving Lily a 20$ at Barney and Robin’s wedding. I think so, too - I think this was a bit of mis-direction. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/35 "2012-02-22T00:49:58Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > She’s got to be. In eighteen years, Future Ted will be telling the story to his kids who look to be at least sixteen. That gives him two years to Meet their Mother, get married, and have them. > > Tick-tock. I would say the look more like 14. Fifteen tops. ETA: I also noticed the lock. Nice bit. Lots of fun call backs in this episode. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/36 "2012-02-23T15:31:26Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > Didn’t the last scene with Marshall declining to pay up on the Ted/Robin bet with Lily kind of cast doubt on whether it was\* really \*over? Or was that just Marshall having a hard time facing reality? Marshall previously refused to pay up _at Ted’s actual wedding._ There’s no way he’d pay up now. From his perspective, Ted is still deeply in love with Robin and is known for hanging on to crushes forever. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/37 "2012-02-23T16:35:20Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Marshall previously refused to pay up _at Ted’s actual wedding._ There’s no way he’d pay up now. From his perspective, Ted is still deeply in love with Robin and is known for hanging on to crushes forever. Okay, so - was Marshall telling Robin that she had to move out bet-motivated at all, or just Marshall doing what he thought his friend Ted needed? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/38 "2012-02-23T16:50:05Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > She’s got to be. In eighteen years, Future Ted will be telling the story to his kids who look to be at least sixteen. That gives him two years to Meet their Mother, get married, and have them. > > > > Tick-tock. > > I would say the look more like 14. Fifteen tops. FWIW, the actress playing his not-yet-conceived daughter was apparently 18 when shooting the _“kids…”_ scenes set in 2030; the actor playing his son, 15-16. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/39 "2012-02-23T17:26:13Z")
> [@chrisk](#): > > Okay, so - was Marshall telling Robin that she had to move out bet-motivated at all, or just Marshall doing what he thought his friend Ted needed? I think Marshall was doing what Ted needed - at one point in the episode Marshall said to Lily, “Not like this,” which I took to mean that Marshall isn’t going to put winning a little bet over his friend’s happiness. So, we’ve established that Marshall wins **everything** - it looks like the one thing he might lose is his bet that Ted ends up with Robin. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489/40 "2012-02-23T20:31:22Z")
> [@chrisk](#): > > Okay, so - was Marshall telling Robin that she had to move out bet-motivated at all, or just Marshall doing what he thought his friend Ted needed? Definitely the latter. Marshall wants to win, sure, but he wants to win fairly. And he’d still rather see Ted and robin apart but happy than together and miserable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-i-met-your-mother-2-20-12/613489.md?page=3)