# How incredibly stupid will the SOTU be? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994 "2019-02-05T07:00:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/21 "2019-02-05T16:52:06Z")
I’d be open to the democrats working with Trump to lower medical costs, build infrastructure, get meaningful immigration reform, etc. But in reality I’m sure everything Trump and the gop propose will be a mixture of plutocratic and white nationalist to deal with these problems. Also Trump doesn’t negotiate in good faith. So a bunch of feel good proposals that will never happen. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/22 "2019-02-05T16:52:29Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I don’t know if it is or isn’t, but I’m with you on that. I’ll read a transcript in the morning, though even doing that isn’t easy because everything he says, even when it isn’t a falsehood, is so damn _stupid_. Infuriatingly stupid. Whatever of his horsetwaddle that Judy Woodruff can concisely distill for me, afterwards, will _still_ piss me off. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/23 "2019-02-05T17:20:09Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Everything is exciting when you’ve just snorted amphetamine. I note that a possible risk of Adderall use is sudden cardiac death. That would be exciting. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/24 "2019-02-05T17:20:27Z")
Here’s a question: how much would someone have to pay you, for you to watch the Shitgibbon’s entire SOTU speech tonight? Earlier today in another venue, I said $1000. But I’d have to get very very drunk first. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/25 "2019-02-05T17:34:20Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > What’s the over/under on how many times Thrump will turn around and smirk at Nancy Pelosi? Or, as Trump calls her, “Nancy.” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/26 "2019-02-05T18:16:59Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Here’s a question: how much would someone have to pay you, for you to watch the Shitgibbon’s entire SOTU speech tonight? > > Earlier today in another venue, I said $1000. But I’d have to get very very drunk first. $1,000 and pay my top shelf bar and food bill. And the payee can’t talk to me during or ever again after the speech if s/he is a Shit-Gibbon sycophant. Also, if a sycophant, paid in advance because you can only trust them as much as an intelligent person would trust CFSG. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/27 "2019-02-05T19:06:35Z")
I’ll be impressed if the twerp’s so-called speech is not an obviously bad Russian-to-English teanslation. Even if he manages to avoid going off-script, the only thing he could say that is of value is, “I resign”. Not going to happen, so I’m not watching it. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/28 "2019-02-05T19:28:07Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’ll be impressed if the twerp’s so-called speech is not an obviously bad Russian-to-English teanslation. > > … “My fellow the USA citizens…” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/29 "2019-02-05T19:46:22Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Here’s a question: how much would someone have to pay you, for you to watch the Shitgibbon’s entire SOTU speech tonight? > > Earlier today in another venue, I said $1000. But I’d have to get very very drunk first. As much as I don’t want to watch this, hell, I’ll do it for way less than a thousand bucks. A hundred bucks strikes me as being generous. I can zone out for 60-90 minutes to collect Valentine’s Day dinner money. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/30 "2019-02-05T19:47:52Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I don’t know if it is or isn’t, but I’m with you on that. I’ll read a transcript in the morning, though even doing that isn’t easy because everything he says, even when it isn’t a falsehood, is so damn _stupid_. And as to this, the transcript won’'t read the way his rantings usually do. His normal speech is almost incomprehensible. Stephen Miller and some other folks in the Young Fascists League will have written this, and it will be dishonest and horrible, but the English will be more or less correct. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/31 "2019-02-05T19:50:27Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > To be honest, [I don’t think this is going to help the child.](https://news.yahoo.com/biggest-bully-trump-called-inviting-joshua-trump-boy-shamed-sharing-last-name-state-union-121434486.html) > [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > Lots of good stuff in that article (some of those tweets are _chef’s kiss_) but what i particularly liked was “…as the guest of President Trump ( **no relation** ).” > > Ha! I liked this part at the end: > [@Individual Juan](#): > > Poor Joshua Trump. What kind of low life would use a person’s name to mock and bully them? > BTW, Joshua will be seated in the same row as Lyin’ Ted, Little Marco, Cryin’ Chuck, Crooked Hillary, and right next to Adam Schitt. and > [@Gary M. Sarli](#): > > “kid bullied for being named Joshua Trump” > At least he didn’t have a President calling him Pocahontas. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/32 "2019-02-05T19:52:09Z")
[AP Politics](https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1092867813990154240) tweets: > [@](#): > > What to watch during Trump’s State of the Union address _ **ANYTHING ELSE!!!** _ OK, that’s what their answer _should_ have been. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/33 "2019-02-05T19:52:55Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Don’t know and won’t know, as I’d rather press my tongue in a waffle iron than watch that varnished gourd preening and braying for 90 minutes while half a room grimaces and the other half cheers him on like he’s shitting Krugerrands. That is one lovely post. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/34 "2019-02-05T20:00:00Z")
I plan to watch. I am a glutton for punishment I guess- somehow I feel obligated to watch these things no matter who it is. Hard to say how stupid it will be. It could be anything from sticking gamely to the script to screaming obscenities. You never know, it could be the day he finally “turns presidential”. \<----- a joke if you can’t tell. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/35 "2019-02-05T20:08:06Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I’ll be watching, but then I I’m the sort who likes sticking forks in electrical sockets, so… > > In response to a press question the other day, Trump said the speech was going to be “exciting”. Lord only knows what that means. I’m taking suggestions. National Emergency! Wall! Military coup! Surrender to North Korea! Putin is President! There are so many choices… ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/36 "2019-02-05T20:11:30Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > If a different Congressperson yelled “You lie!” every time Trump uttered a falsehood, how many different Congresspersons would yell, and for what percentage of the SOTU speech would Congresspersons be yelling? If I KNEW that would happen, I would probably watch the speech. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/37 "2019-02-05T20:35:40Z")
My students have been assigned a paper on the speech, but even I am not cruel enough to require them to watch the whole thing. I told them to catch the “low-lights” on Youtube and the news channels after the fact. Me, I plan to either follow along the threads on _Daily Kos_ and here, and/or drink heavily. Who are we kidding? There is no “or.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/38 "2019-02-05T20:48:28Z")
The top story at the AP for the last 2 hours: [Trump squabbles with Democrats before speech on unity](https://apnews.com/449885686d4b4db7b0724314bdba6577) ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/39 "2019-02-05T21:04:22Z")
He’s a reality show guy, so we all expect some special jaw dropping twist. He will not deliver. He will double down on his swarms of criminal, disease-ridden Mexicans attacking the border, possibly escalating their presence there to the level of a biological attack. He will also repeat his infomercial exercise. Everything he has touched has turned to gold, and everything is in shambles because of Democratz. He will dance right up to, but not come out and call down, a federal emergency. He’ll wave his pecker at it, but he won’t have the nerve to pull the trigger in that venue. Tomorrow morning, via Twitter maybe. Oh! Almost forgot: He will take credit for getting Nancy to let him have his SOTU. I’m not watching it. I’ll be drinking a lot of beer and annihilating Alduin, again. Maybe petting a cat or two. ---
**Author:** ![Tierce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@Tierce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tierce)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/40 "2019-02-05T21:08:39Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > If a different Congressperson yelled “You lie!” every time Trump uttered a falsehood, how many different Congresspersons would yell, and for what percentage of the SOTU speech would Congresspersons be yelling? I’d rather they all quietly mutter “bullshit” in unison. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994.md?page=3)