# How incredibly stupid will the SOTU be?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 5, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994 "2019-02-05T07:00:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/161 "2019-02-06T15:42:27Z")

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That’s the look of full-body vaginismus.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/162 "2019-02-06T16:12:34Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> So, any spin on why the Democratic Senate women weren’t in white? Did the House women forget to tell them? Don’t know if any were in white, but the [following were not](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/senators-kamala-harris-elizabeth-warren-didnt-wear-white-2019-state-union-not-get-memo-033136197.html):
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> [ul]  
> [li]Warren - blue/teal[/li][li]Sinema - hot pink[/li][li]Klobuchar - purple[/li][li]Harris - black[/li][li]Gillibrand - black[/li][/ul]
> 
> Not sure what the 11 (?) other female D senators were wearing. I assume the GOP women were not in white.

4 of those are running for President, so that may answer this question. Other than that, who knows?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/163 "2019-02-06T16:20:19Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I wore white on election day 2016. I was so proud to finally vote for a woman, a woman I respected.
> 
> Alas…

I did, too.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/164 "2019-02-06T16:46:34Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> 4 of those are running for President, so that may answer this question. Other than that, who knows?

Actually, I would have expected the candidates to be in white to show fealty to the tribe (both the ‘tribes’ of woman and progressives).

I am more curious now about what the other senators were wearing. I guess I would assume white or they would have been mentioned.

When I started looking at this, I only knew about Harris and Gillibrand (from photos), so I thought maybe the senate women had decided on black as a contrast of some sort, but the other colors torpedoed that idea.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/165 "2019-02-06T17:13:15Z")

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Turns out that the Doofus in Chief [needed to have “keemo” spelled out phonetically for him](https://twitter.com/AmandiOnAir/status/1092986313983315968).

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**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/166 "2019-02-06T17:45:37Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Turns out that the Doofus in Chief [needed to have “keemo” spelled out phonetically for him](https://twitter.com/AmandiOnAir/status/1092986313983315968).

M-O-O-N … that spells chemo.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/167 "2019-02-06T17:58:26Z")

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Melania’s guest, Joshua Trump, fell asleep during the brilliant speech:

> **[Boy named Trump who fell asleep during State of the Union hailed a hero](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/06/the-trump-who-fell-asleep-during-state-of-the-union-hailed-a-hero)**
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> Joshua Trump, 11, wakes up a celebrity after dozing off during presidential address

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/168 "2019-02-06T18:03:05Z")

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I particularly love the response thread, which basically consists of:

1a: Somebody offering the explanation “that’s how it was spelled on the kid’s poster”  
2a: Somebody posting an image of the kid’s poster, with “CHEMO” spelled correctly.  
1b: Somebody offering the explanation “that’s how it was spelled on the kid’s poster”  
2b: Somebody posting an image of the kid’s poster, with “CHEMO” spelled correctly.  
. . .  
1q: (what part of this pattern eludes you?)

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/169 "2019-02-06T18:03:27Z")

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> [@SingleMalt](#):
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> Paraphrase of an enjoyable comment:
> 
> “Melania Trump’s guest was Joshua Trump (no relation) who has been subjected to bullying at school because of his name. Also in attendance were Lyin’ Ted, Little Marco, Pocahontas, and Crazy Maxine.”

I feel at once sorry for the kid being bullied due to his name being Trump and for him due to his name being Trump.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/170 "2019-02-06T18:03:56Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Turns out that the Doofus in Chief [needed to have “keemo” spelled out phonetically for him](https://twitter.com/AmandiOnAir/status/1092986313983315968).

And the pro-Trump replies are right out the playbook!

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/171 "2019-02-06T18:44:08Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Turns out that the Doofus in Chief [needed to have “keemo” spelled out phonetically for him](https://twitter.com/AmandiOnAir/status/1092986313983315968).

I actually don’t see why this is a big deal. Newscasters have words that might trip them up spelled out phonetically all the time. Granted, it’s usually names and more difficult words, but Of all the substantive things to harp on, this one is kind of silly, IMHO. I could actually imagine myself reading from a script and stumbling on the word “chemo” and saying something like “kemmo” because it’s an unusual looking word.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/172 "2019-02-06T19:00:14Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I can only guess that Jerry Falwell, Jr. was feeling left out of the competition to see who could be Trump’s biggest ass-kisser. He’s gonna have to do a lot to catch up with the likes of Mike Pence and Lindsey Graham, but [this tweet](https://twitter.com/JerryFalwellJr/status/1092985625500884992) was an impressive move:  
> JFTR, Jerry - and you should know this! - there are more than a few stories in the Bible about supposed prophets and other religious types who kiss up to wicked rulers.
> 
> While it’s not _always_ true that it doesn’t end well for them, it’s pretty clear what the Biblical writers thought about them, and it’s **never** positive.

How old is this Falwell guy, six?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/173 "2019-02-06T19:06:02Z")

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Of course, the speech could have simply used the word “chemotherapy”, but then again, Trump can’t read too fucking good.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/174 "2019-02-06T19:19:16Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> I feel at once sorry for the kid being bullied due to his name being Trump and for him due to his name being Trump.

Wonder if his dad gets bullied at work…

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/175 "2019-02-06T19:32:10Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Of course, the speech could have simply used the word “chemotherapy”, but then again, Trump can’t read too fucking good.

Ché Mother Rapey?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/176 "2019-02-06T19:48:31Z")

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“What is ‘what your mother asked me for last night in bed, Alex’?”

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**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/177 "2019-02-06T19:59:17Z")

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This is perhaps not the right thread for this - and I’m sure many will find it too simplistic to take seriously (or alternatively, far too complicated for certain Republican presidents to comprehend) - yet for having been produced in 1971, it seemed to me a prescient response to the 2019 SOTU:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ABKLirW24LE/hqdefault.jpg "Freedom River") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABKLirW24LE)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/178 "2019-02-06T20:30:36Z")

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> [@Dropo](#):
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> This is perhaps not the right thread for this - and I’m sure many will find it too simplistic to take seriously (or alternatively, far too complicated for certain Republican presidents to comprehend) - yet for having been produced in 1971, it seemed to me a prescient response to the 2019 SOTU:
> 
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?time\_continue=1&v=ABKLirW24LE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ABKLirW24LE)

How about some clue as to what it’s about? Not in a position at the moment to watch a SIX MINUTE video. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/179 "2019-02-06T20:57:33Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> How about some clue as to what it’s about? Not in a position at the moment to watch a SIX MINUTE video. Thank you.

Per the video description: “Concentrating on an area of growing concern in our society–the indifference that makes people blind to the injustices around them–this animated parable traces how the erosion of freedom, like the pollution of natural resources, can occur so gradually that both evade the attention of a busy and preoccupied nation. (Narrated by Orson Welles)”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-incredibly-stupid-will-the-sotu-be/828994/180 "2019-02-07T03:23:00Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Turns out that the Doofus in Chief [needed to have “keemo” spelled out phonetically for him](https://twitter.com/AmandiOnAir/status/1092986313983315968).

> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I actually don’t see why this is a big deal. Newscasters have words that might trip them up spelled out phonetically all the time. Granted, it’s usually names and more difficult words, but Of all the substantive things to harp on, this one is kind of silly, IMHO. I could actually imagine myself reading from a script and stumbling on the word “chemo” and saying something like “kemmo” because it’s an unusual looking word.

Give me a break. The President of the United States should be able to pronounce such a common word without having it spelled out for him. \*Chemo \*is a VERY common word today. You see this as something inconsequential. I see it as one more example of this man’s unfathomable STUPIDITY.

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