# How is a discussion of the secondary effects of people quitting a hijack of the vaccine mandate discussion? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [October 28, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-a-discussion-of-the-secondary-effects-of-people-quitting-a-hijack-of-the-vaccine-mandate-discussion/953348 "2021-10-28T02:43:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-a-discussion-of-the-secondary-effects-of-people-quitting-a-hijack-of-the-vaccine-mandate-discussion/953348/1 "2021-10-28T02:43:09Z")
In the thread [Vaccine mandates...are you for, or against, and why do you have the stance you have?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vaccine-mandates-are-you-for-or-against-and-why-do-you-have-the-stance-you-have/953329) What\_Exit and D\_Anconia got into a discussion about whether cops, first responders, etc would really quit over a vaccine mandate, whether that would really be so bad, and whether the alternative would be worse. I thought it was a fascinating and absolutely on-topic discussion; it’s pretty much the only conceivable “con” worth discussing, IMO. So why did WE say to drop it? > [@Vaccine mandates...are you for, or against, and why do you have the stance you have?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vaccine-mandates-are-you-for-or-against-and-why-do-you-have-the-stance-you-have/953329/57): > > Modnote: what exit? and D\_anconia, drop the hijack or take it to a new thread. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-a-discussion-of-the-secondary-effects-of-people-quitting-a-hijack-of-the-vaccine-mandate-discussion/953348/2 "2021-10-28T03:16:13Z")
Or take it to a new thread. You really don’t see that discussion as hijacking the thread? Strange. It seemed like a clear hijack to me and I was a part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-a-discussion-of-the-secondary-effects-of-people-quitting-a-hijack-of-the-vaccine-mandate-discussion/953348/3 "2021-10-28T03:34:58Z")
No, I really don’t. The thread isn’t about whether you’re pro-vaccine; it’s about whether you’re pro-mandate. I think most illegal drugs are bad but I oppose the laws against them because I believe the second-order consequences have done more harm than whatever good the bans have accomplished. Would it be off-topic for me to bring that up in a thread about whether meth should be legalized, or could I only discuss whether doing meth is a smart personal choice? And if I asserted that meth is more dangerous because it’s illegal, would other posters be hijacking the thread to dispute that? How is this different? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-a-discussion-of-the-secondary-effects-of-people-quitting-a-hijack-of-the-vaccine-mandate-discussion/953348/4 "2021-10-28T10:20:45Z")
My only comment is that I found it amusing that **What\_Exit** mod-noted himself. I’ve never seen that before. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-a-discussion-of-the-secondary-effects-of-people-quitting-a-hijack-of-the-vaccine-mandate-discussion/953348/5 "2021-10-28T12:24:36Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I found it amusing that **What\_Exit** mod-noted himself. I found it disturbing due to the potential for a negative effect on WE’s visual acuity. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-a-discussion-of-the-secondary-effects-of-people-quitting-a-hijack-of-the-vaccine-mandate-discussion/953348/6 "2021-10-28T17:39:16Z")
I agree with @Esprise_Me on this. It’s not really debatable that vaccines are a net good, so the only interesting question to discuss on whether the mandate is a good policy is whether the downsides of it are worth the upsides. People in important jobs getting fired because they don’t get vaccinated is (arguably) one of the downsides. Although I think you could _also_ argue that it’s an upside; getting the dumbest, most anti-authority, most anti-medicine cops and paramedics to not be cops and paramedics any more would be a net improvement long-term, even if it results in some short-term pain. Either way, it seems fairly central to the question of mandates. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-a-discussion-of-the-secondary-effects-of-people-quitting-a-hijack-of-the-vaccine-mandate-discussion/953348/7 "2021-10-29T13:10:40Z")
Agreed. @What_Exit seems to have a rather unique view of what is on topic or off topic. In a thread about vaccine mandates and being for or against them and why, it seems very, very relevant to discuss if people will quit their jobs if a mandate is in place, and if so what the effects will be of that.