How is anti-wokeism different from sexism and/or racism?

Why yell at them? Do you have any method of engaging them other than yelling at them?

And if you say that you do, that you are not yelling, are you sure that someone from a third perspective may not think that you are?

If any time that someone expresses a concern, they are accused of yelling, isn’t that just telling them to shut up?

I linked to it earlier.

I don’t see how you’re disempowering them by ignoring them. How can they tell the difference between your ignoring them because you intend to disempower them, and your ignoring them because you agree with them?

Nobody, of course, can respond to every bigoted asshole on the internet. But, when you choose not to deal with them, why do it by joining the same space that they’re ranting in while making no objection to the ranting?

If you’re responding in some fashion that doesn’t qualify to you as raging or acting butthurt, that’s different – and I’d include just blocking them, especially if it can be done so that they know you’re doing it; just as I’d include pointedly ignoring them in the checkout line, where your body language can make clear that it’s a cut and not a cower. There are certainly people to whom “you hurt my feelings!” is incentive rather than discouragement. But if “you’re an asshole and you’re not worth my time” isn’t being said in any form – they’re not hearing that from your silence. They’re hearing either “hah! I cowed that person” or “that person must agree with me”.

Do you have any examples of what the problem is that don’t involve trans rights? Or is that your only beef with “woke” progressives?

This is then where the many times referred “case by case” item comes in, the point for me is that unfortunately many Republicans in power have decided that following the “advice” of many bigots out there is the way. The Republicans in power have decided that their absolute statements are the rule now. And the biggest issue now. It does not equate really to the complaint you are making.

Sometimes, letting someone think they’ve “won” and walking away is the best option because engaging will not result in anything worthwhile. If they think they’ve won, or that I agree, it’s of no consequence to my life. It’s just some rando on a keyboard who is probably miserable if trying to upset people is how they get their kicks. Not bothered. They’ll go and find another willing target in short order.

I’ve mentioned racism plenty of times. Even linked to an Newsweek article showing how white progressives are alienating more pragmatic black people. In the spin-off thread, I linked to a video that lampooned how “wokeness” and racism mirror each other.

I’ve also mentioned misogyny. Multiple times.

So why are you bringing up something I haven’t even mentioned?

Citing a trans activist critiquing the world’s most famous transphobe is “not mentioning” something? This is next-level silly.

And misgendering them as well.

And misgendering them as well.

It does relate to the point I’m making. Kneejerk dismissal of anything that violates preferred conclusions about the state of reality is rampant in this discourse. It just as problematic when progressives do it, if not more so.

Oof–I missed that.

Do you really think that the result will be “I won! Time to move on” and not “I can go this far with no repercussion-lets up the ante”?

Moderating:

I’m closing this thread pending a discussion in the mod loop to determine if it should be permanently closed. I don’t have time to sort it out now. There are flags and flags and flags being thrown. It’s become a problem thread.

Moderating:

While there is some sympathy for the fact that you were being baited in the thread, this is not a basis to expend effort in trying to get around prior mod instructions or a topic ban in order to respond. Doing so rises to the level of trolling. For engaging in that, as well as disregarding a moderator’s instructions, you are being given a formal warning.

Prior warning:

Any further misgendering by you will result in a permanent suspension of your posting privileges. This is your last reprieve. Your topic ban re transgender issues is a board-wide ban.

Moderating:

After discussion in the mod loop, we’ve decided it’s best to leave this thread closed. While some useful discussion took place, exchanges throughout consist of scoring off others and talking past one another. Civility is mostly absent. @What_Exit has given a lot of his time to trying to keep the thread on track, to no avail. It’s done.