# How is genocide defined, with an emphasis on cultural genocide?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 13, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198 "2021-06-13T23:23:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/101 "2021-06-16T15:30:03Z")

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…he says with the ferocity of a brain-addled Pekinese. 🤣

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/102 "2021-06-16T15:31:14Z")

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It was not a dishonest representation, it was a misunderstanding based on your poor communication skills.

> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> you’re a piece of shit, go fuck yourself.

You are a genocide denier. You can go fuck an entire field of cactuses.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/103 "2021-06-16T15:31:24Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Actually the way that you worded it, it seemed as though you thought that I was the one who made that statement.

This. I’m pretty sure that Martin made an error here, and like many - he simply REFUSES to admit error, and doubles down with obfuscation.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/104 "2021-06-16T15:33:43Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> > There is literally no meaningful or intelligent discourse to be had with people who behave this way.
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> I do like it when people use the passive voice in order to be ambiguous like you do here, as I pretty much assume that they are talking about themselves.

An excellent highlight of this poster being deliberately dishonest again, further proof of their low quality contributions to the discussion. Please continue to post.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You are a genocide denier. You can go fuck an entire field of cactuses.

Nope, I never denied any genocide, period. Any claims otherwise are lies, which makes you a liar.

Further, lying about genocide all but certainly has contributed to the rise of Neo Nazism and other terrible ideologies, meaning you have direct moral blame for increasing acts of racial and political violence, you and people like you.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > Actually the way that you worded it, it seemed as though you thought that I was the one who made that statement.
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> This. I’m pretty sure that Martin made an error here, and like many - he simply REFUSES to admit error, and doubles down with obfuscation.

There is no fucking error fuckstick. There was me clearly following a thread of discussion, idiot boy slopped in his garbage by saying “durrr that’s a bad analogy”, and I responded. To which he then threw his hands up and said “woah woah woah, I was never the one who made the slave family separation comment.” **No one had ever said he had, no one had ever implied he had, it was a bullshit, stupid and dishonest attempt to manipulate and obfsucate the thread of discussion.**

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/105 "2021-06-16T15:34:38Z")

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Right right. The residential schools in Canada were not genocide because the people who made the policy and the ones who anally raped and beat the children while witholding food probably had good intentions.

And anyway, some of the ones who were not killed got to see their parents again, so it’s all good.

And if anyone disagrees with me, I’ll make up quotes they never said, then deny I did that, then tell some others to fuck off, thus bolstering my argument.

What a fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/106 "2021-06-16T15:35:18Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Right right. The residential schools in Canada were not genocide because they people who made the policy and the ones who anally raped and beat the children while witholding food probably had good intentions.
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> And anyway, some of the ones who were not killed got to see their parents again, so it’s all good.
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> And if anyone disagrees with me, I’ll make up quotes they never said, then deny I did that, then tell some others to fuck off, thus bolstering my argument.
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> What a fucking idiot.

Another liar revealed. I never said the residential schools in Canada and the operation of them, did not constitute cultural genocide. Please provide proof I did that or admit you are a liar and apologize, or shut the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/107 "2021-06-16T15:37:07Z")

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Wisdom is knowing when to put the shovel down.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/108 "2021-06-16T15:38:39Z")

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For you it’s more remembering to take your psych meds each morning.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/109 "2021-06-16T15:41:18Z")

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You can do better than that. Want to comment about my mommy or the size of my penis, perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/110 "2021-06-16T15:43:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You can do better than that.

False. That’s the best he can do.

His heart’s just not in it unless it’s something he really loves, like genocide denial.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/111 "2021-06-16T15:44:37Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> I never said the residential schools in Canada and the operation of them, did not constitute cultural genocide

You’re sure making a lot of excuses for the people who did this. You’re sure making a big fucking deal out of it. What’s your purpose for doing this? Just trying to stir shit up for giggles?

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/112 "2021-06-16T15:47:40Z")

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No one was making excuses or making a big deal other than people like Lance\_Turbo et al. This is a discussion forum, I was discussing something. However, one reason I frequently have taken long sabbaticals from these forums is it’s a den of mentally ill leftists, always has been, always will be. Most are simply bleating, stupid sheep. I try to find discussions with those who are not, but the bleating of the sheep sometime force their way in–it is much worse in the Pit than in other, moderated forums where the bleats are kept under better control. In this environment if you don’t always bleat with the other sheep with exact same pitch and tone, the wagons are drawn into a circle, the pitchforks are readied, and the torches are lit. That’s all that happened here. Someone who never denied any sort of genocide, and who made a fairly unambiguous and factual statement, was targetted for “wrongthink” by a bunch of bitchy little leftist sheep. But unlike most of the conservative posters that left the forums over the years because they couldn’t take the bleating, when I’m posting here, I’m happy to slap back at the sheep as needed.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/113 "2021-06-16T15:48:39Z")

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Dude-Tell us how you _really_ feel.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/114 "2021-06-16T15:51:44Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> I’m happy to slap back at the sheep as needed.

Sheep-slapping?  
_Kinky._

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/115 "2021-06-16T16:06:54Z")

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Ah, so you don’t come here for the discussion, you just like slapping sheep.

Explains why you act ambiguously, then play the victim when someone misunderstands your poorly worded posts.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/116 "2021-06-16T16:19:49Z")

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Just for you, Martin:  
[Martin Hyde- Sheep Slapper - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-sheep-slapper/944407)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/117 "2021-06-16T16:24:55Z")

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It is possible to be banned for trolling the Pit, you know.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/118 "2021-06-16T16:26:55Z")

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I think it’s possible to be banned for junior modding too. Literally nothing I said was fucking trolling. It isn’t trolling to refute others telling lies about you, for fuck’s sake. Literally none of this discussion would have happened if not for a couple people (Lance, k9b) actually spreading blatant lies about what I have said. That’s the closest thing to trolling in this thread, is people telling deliberate lies about another poster’s arguments.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/119 "2021-06-16T16:27:05Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> It is possible to be banned for trolling the Pit, you know.

Yeah, but that’s not going to happen based on anything he’s posted in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/120 "2021-06-16T16:28:07Z")

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Sheep slapper.

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