# How is it a warnable offense to express appreciation for a public figure’s sexiness? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 5, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241 "2019-01-05T05:35:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/41 "2019-01-05T13:45:04Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > This isn’t going to be the THIRD 4-6 page thread on this exact topic, is it? What else can be said that wasn’t already said in those? “ **SlackerInc** has been suspended pending discussion of his future posting privileges.” ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/42 "2019-01-05T13:45:32Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Link? Like I said, I never lurk. If I didn’t post in 'em, I didn’t read them. But I would like to. Who the hell cares whether you read them, even if you hadn’t it’s still the rules. You’re responsible for knowing them. As for your post? It was some nonsense. You linked something that was intentionally posted to harm a woman by minimizing her ability to contribute to the House of Representatives. It attempts to lower her star by objectifying her and reducing her to a pair of breasts and making her child-like. You reposted it in the same manner. It is a shameful thing. Take your lumps and move on. Perhaps grow from the experience. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/43 "2019-01-05T14:21:04Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > It was appreciative, albeit in a way that many people obviously find icky, but there should be a grey area where people just roll their eyes or even say “gross” and leave it at that. You’ve been involved in enough discussions in ATMB that you should clearly know what the issue is by now. You may want a gray area where you can post these things, but you know darn well that this is exactly the type of thing that we are trying to eliminate here. You know that many here find this “icky” or “gross” (as you put it) and yet you posted it anyway. I very strongly recommend that you not do that in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/44 "2019-01-05T14:21:55Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Oh great, so I’m being made an example of. > > Can anyone honestly deny that what I said was not hostile, disparaging, or even mocking of AOC? It was appreciative, albeit in a way that many people obviously find icky, but there should be a grey area where people just roll their eyes or even say “gross” and leave it at that. To say that something is not a violation is not the same as saying you endorse it or want to be associated with the kind of person with that personality. Frankly, I find the idea that you are being made an example of to be not credible. I’ve been a moderator for just over two years, and in that time I’ve consistently pushed back against this type of objectification. Regarding whether or not you’ve participated in several of the more current discussions is besides the point in my mind. The warning is justified sans those discussions. And whether or not what you wrote was hostile, disparaging, or even mocking is besides the point as well. Being a jerk doesn’t require those elements. But objectifying someone as merely a sex object when that is not at all related to their public profile is pretty jerky in my estimation. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/45 "2019-01-05T14:53:57Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > \*It’s a sad day when a young (but not underage) woman dresses and dances in an obviously sexually provocative way in a video she knew would be put online, someone notices and publicly agrees that she is indeed very appreciable in that way, and this is labeled “misogyny”. Sheesh. :rolleyes: Just because you find her attractive does not mean she “dresses and dances in an obviously sexually provocative way”. This is making it all about you. She didn’t dance for you, or dress for you. She danced and dressed a certain way for her own reasons. Good moderation, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/46 "2019-01-05T15:41:07Z")
Can we refrain from calling for bannings in threads like these? We have perfectly capable moderation here, and it is solely moderators’ task to determine who needs suspension or banning. Calling for banning can easily start to feel like a lynch mob outside the sheriff’s office calling for the horse thief to be hanged right the fuck now. It is unbecoming the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/47 "2019-01-05T16:53:25Z")
How about a compromise? We could set up a sticky (pun intended) where he and his fellows can curate a running list of politicians they’d like to fuck. If we did it right, maybe put a little automated counter in there so he’d think that people were actually looking at them, maybe give them some more latitude in description so they can keep each other interested, it could relieve the pressure of needing to tell us in unrelated threads how their penises feel about things. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/48 "2019-01-05T17:50:10Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > In a [video](http://www.citypages.com/music/lets-watch-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-dance-to-princes-lets-go-crazy/503899511) where she is quite obviously trying to look sexy (and succeeding magnificently)? 😕 Let’s just invoke Fenris’s Law[sup]tm, pat.pndg[/sup] and close the thread. > [@](#): > > Normal people, growing up, are socialized to know societal norms. If you are not one of these people, either learn, and learn fast or shut up. Either way. It is not the mission of the SDMB to try to teach you normal human interaction. If you can’t figure it out on your own, you’ll be warned and then banned. > > Addendum: The mods/admins are not your mommy and daddy. You should have figured this utterly basic social norm long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/49 "2019-01-05T17:59:50Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Oh great, so I’m being made an example of. Given that you are neither the first nor the only person to have been warned for this, this is an absurd statement. Really, you only have two choices on how to go on this: “I was totally clueless about the issue” or “trolling.” I see you are going with the former. But cluelessness doesn’t absolve you from a warning. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/50 "2019-01-05T18:03:46Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > You guys are being way too conspiratorial in your thinking. #MeToo, except I believe it’s more paranoia than anything else. > [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Why did you start it in “Elections” a political forum? Because she was JUST ELECTED? Duh. I find it interesting that Bone had to think about it, constructing a path leading to warn, digging for a judgment. > [@Bone](#): > > Perhaps a discussion about a person’s attractiveness can be had. In Elections, it may take the form of discussing the matter as it relates to electability, or some other salient political aspect. That’s not what your thread was. Your comments were of the pubescent teen variety - not what that forum is for. I took into consideration your contemporaneous posting about AOC and pornhub, and concluded it crossed the line. > > You asked via PM to whom your comments were being a jerk to. The answer is all of us. Perhaps he overlooked the fact that all of you is only about half of us. Moderation merely reflects the offcial tone here, so just get over it. People can read words simultaneously injecting parralellistic personal bias into their comprehension regardless of the factual value of the information. Sounds almost deplorable. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/51 "2019-01-05T18:28:18Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > Perhaps he overlooked the fact that all of you is only about half of us. This implies that no men could possibly object to sexist comments, which clearly demonstrates you don’t understand the issue at all. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/52 "2019-01-05T18:28:51Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > #MeToo, except I believe it’s more paranoia than anything else… > > …I find it interesting that Bone had to think about it, constructing a path leading to warn, digging for a judgment. > > Perhaps he overlooked the fact that all of you is only about half of us. > > Moderation merely reflects the offcial tone here, so just get over it. **People can read words simultaneously injecting parralellistic personal bias into their comprehension regardless of the factual value of the information.** > > Sounds almost deplorable. This sounds very sardonic and sophisticated, but I understand almost nothing of it, and I frankly have no idea which side of the issue you are supporting (if any), nor what _any_ of your points mean. Are you mocking the MeToo movement, or mocking Slackerinc for thinking it’s a conspiracy? What exactly is your criticism of Bone, why is it “interesting”? I can’t tell if you are saying that the warning required a convoluted path of reasoning and was therefore wrong, or the complete opposite - that you think the misogyny was so obvious that no detailed path of reasoning should need to be stated. Who is “you” and “us” referencing? Presumably you must mean men vs women, but since I don’t know which you are, I don’t know what your point is. I have no idea what the sentence that I bolded is supposed to mean, nor why a presumed reference to Clinton’s “deplorables” comment is relevant here. Maybe this is just my own shortcoming, but it’s too subtle for me - I’ve noticed a couple of your posts recently that have left me scratching my head like this. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/53 "2019-01-05T18:30:44Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > This implies that no men could possibly object to sexist comments, which clearly demonstrates you don’t understand the issue at all. No, I understand it differently than you do. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/54 "2019-01-05T18:31:19Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > #MeToo, except I believe it’s more paranoia than anything else. > > Because she was JUST ELECTED? Duh… The election was two months ago. **SlackerInc** ’s post had zero input on past or future elections. **Slackerinc** made a post about how he was adding AOC to his spankbank. Full stop. If that wasn’t clear enough, he followed it up with this comment in the Pit: > [@Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, on How to Pay for Medicare for All](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ms-ocasio-cortez-on-how-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all/825514/269): > > I would say “smoking HAWT” rather than “adorable”, but yeah. (This video is going to replace Pornhub in my rotation for a while.) That thrilling bit of news came in a thread titled: _Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, on How to Pay for Medicare for All._ I know you must think your usage of the term #metoo is clever and cute, but it in reality it’s pathetic and sad. > [@BeenJammin](#): > > Perhaps he overlooked the fact that all of you is only about half of us. Dream on. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/55 "2019-01-05T18:31:47Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > This sounds very sardonic and sophisticated, but I understand almost nothing of it, and I frankly have no idea which side of the issue you are supporting. You also ask alot of questions. None of which I understand. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/56 "2019-01-05T18:32:47Z")
Now warn me for trolling. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/57 "2019-01-05T18:36:13Z")
You will hear people complain “You can’t say X any more”, and often X will be something fairly scurrilous. But when we get to the point of forbidding what amounts to, as another generation might call it, “Hubba Hubba”, it’s approaching moral panic territory. > [@Merneith](#): > > Also for the record: None of those people are “political people”. They are writers & journalists. Uhhh…yeah. In politics. 😕 Not at all sure what your definition of “political people” is (in the context of Twitter), but it’s apparently quite different from mine. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/58 "2019-01-05T18:40:28Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > You also ask alot of questions. None of which I understand. Erm, ok. I think I was pretty clear in my questions. I guess it’s more important to you to sound condescending and supercilious than to actually communicate anything. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/59 "2019-01-05T18:59:44Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > You will hear people complain “You can’t say X any more”, and often X will be something fairly scurrilous. But when we get to the point of forbidding what amounts to, as another generation might call it, “Hubba Hubba”, it’s approaching moral panic territory. You don’t appear to understand that continuing with the “I’m clueless on the issue” defense doesn’t actually improve your position. > [@BeenJammin](#): > > No, I understand it differently than you do. I think you understand “understand” differently than I do.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241/60 "2019-01-05T19:13:34Z")
> [@Isosleepy](#): > > Can we refrain from calling for bannings in threads like these? We have perfectly capable moderation here, and it is solely moderators’ task to determine who needs suspension or banning. Calling for banning can easily start to feel like a lynch mob outside the sheriff’s office calling for the horse thief to be hanged right the fuck now. It is unbecoming the SDMB. Nobody is asking for him to be hung, they’re asking for him to be banned from a freaking message board. Bit of a difference there. And this isn’t the first time he has done something like this, so people are rightfully fed up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-it-a-warnable-offense-to-express-appreciation-for-a-public-figure-s-sexiness/827241.md?page=4)