# How is the ammo availability situation lately? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 15, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089 "2013-06-15T20:11:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/41 "2013-06-17T18:25:51Z")
I’ve not seen any factory loads of popular AR calibers since Sandy Hook, with the exception of one small gun shop in a little CO town that had 2 boxes of my cherished Hornady Vmax. Bought 'em both. I did check out a place a couple of weeks ago that had pallets of .223 and most everything else, 50 cal even, but they were all reloads. At Gander, Bass Pro, Academy and WalMart anytime anything comes in the first couple of customers seem to buy it all. ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/42 "2013-06-17T18:32:24Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Yea. I have about 10K rounds of .223 and 30K rounds of .308. Plus a bunch of 50BMG, 22LR, and 9 mm. > > You can never have too much ammo… 😉 I disagree. You have about 5k too many .308 rounds. I can stop by anytime with pizza for you while I load the excess up. 😃 I’m pretty sure you have too much .50BMG as well. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/43 "2013-06-17T19:02:06Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > And if you have a problem with 1229/ universal background checks, I assume that means you’re totally on board with the worst felons, violent offenders, non-citizens, and the criminally insane owning guns. Are you cool with that? I think any citizen who is not in jail and not on probation should have \*all \*their rights restored. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/44 "2013-06-17T19:46:20Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The manufacturers are laughing at all those who are hoarding. I’m reasonably certain (without cite) that they created the panic, either themselves or through their bot, the NRA. Hell, that’s probably the scenario that makes the most sense – they’ll be making money hand over fist. That’s what it’s all about, not gun rights. ---
**Author:** ![toofs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@toofs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toofs)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/45 "2013-06-18T02:18:23Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Fine then, there is also laws that went beyond proposals and were voted on, sometimes passing one half of congress but not the other. > > Reading up on the California one - I see it was passed but a court found it unconstitutional and poorly written. > Blue box or red box? I have both, and not sure of the difference, I think blue is more grains? Federal also each round in those trays of 50, boxes those, and then puts them in the big box. Remington just has hundreds of loose rounds in a fragile box, and that the reason why my real Rem .22 box is a gallon ziplock. They make good shotguns and shells, though. > > Oh, and I have my Swiss, too. Only 40-60 rounds though. The K31 is my favorite WWII era rifle. The build quality is fantastic! They ware manufactured by SIG and Hammerli from high grade Swiss steel to very high tolerances. Truly a great rifle to shoot, and wow, are they _accurate._ The best ammunition to use is standard issue GP11, with the strange wax ring sealing the bullet to the case. I have a bunch of it to feed both of my K31s. Side note: anyone with a thing for battle rifles of the WWII era owe it to themselves to get their hands on a K31 rifle. These rifles never went through a war, so the only real wear on them was a result of training and handling. Being Swiss, the took excellent care of these weapons. I’ve never heard of a K31 on the surplus market with a shot out or rusted out bore. Oh, and the GP11 service ammunition is non-corrosive. Mosin-Nagant and Mauser owners know the significance of this. I just opened up one of the 40mm grenade (for the Mk19) ammo cans I store the .22LR ammunition. My Federal .22LR Box-O-Bullets is actually 550 rounds, in a red/ maroon box. They properly fit the chamber in the Volquartsen barrel on one of my 10/22s as well as the tighter chamber of my modded Ruger MkII SlabSide. The Remington Box-O-Bullets will not seat properly in either gun. For plinking, the Federals are the way to go, both for reliable feeding, and cleaner operation. Accuracy is acceptable. So I stocked up. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/46 "2013-06-18T02:27:07Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > He hasn’t done anything, nor has the administration. [I asked the same question in April](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688662)(and was accused of trolling for asking what led to ammo hoarding; sensitive issue for hoarders) and it appears there are no new laws limiting ammo and no evidence that “the government” is stockpiling ammunition. [http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/12/bullet-blitz-demand-from-public-government-leaves-ammo-shelves-empty/](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/12/bullet-blitz-demand-from-public-government-leaves-ammo-shelves-empty/) > **[US government buying up all the ammo to make sure you can't](https://www.naturalnews.com/040425_ammo_supply_DHA_gun_control.html)** > > US government buying up all the ammo to make sure you can't It’s gotten so bad that the Congress had to step in and say cut it out. > **[House approves amendment to restrict DHS bulk ammo buys](https://dailycaller.com/2013/06/07/house-approves-amendment-to-restrict-dhs-bulk-ammo-buys/)** > > Requires Homeland Security to report to Congress before stockpiling ammo ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/47 "2013-06-18T02:43:39Z")
> [@toofs](#): > > The K31 is my favorite WWII era rifle. You can also open up the buttplate to get the name of the guy it was originally issued to. Unfortunately, I have the most generic Swiss name ever in mine. I forget exactly, but somewhere along the lines of Hans Schmidt. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/48 "2013-06-18T03:22:12Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > And if you have a problem with 1229/ universal background checks, I assume that means you’re totally on board with the worst felons, violent offenders, non-citizens, and the criminally insane owning guns. Are you cool with that? No real interest in guns; but how does it differ between them being all that and uncaught, and them being identified as such ? If, undetected — and most will be undetected forever — they can safely use weapons, then there will be no additional danger from them when their psychosis is recognised. They are the same people, labelled or not. Just as when they are voting. An undetected insane person and a detected insane person is the same person: but in one state, detected, rights to vote are forfeited despite the outcome being no different either way. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089/49 "2013-06-18T14:01:28Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > [http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/12/bullet-blitz-demand-from-public-government-leaves-ammo-shelves-empty/](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/12/bullet-blitz-demand-from-public-government-leaves-ammo-shelves-empty/) > > [US government buying up all the ammo to make sure you can't - NaturalNews.com](http://www.naturalnews.com/040425_ammo_supply_DHA_gun_control.html) > > It’s gotten so bad that the Congress had to step in and say cut it out. > > [House approves amendment to restrict DHS bulk ammo buys | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/07/house-approves-amendment-to-restrict-dhs-bulk-ammo-buys/) Well, at least you’re admitting that a well-known conspiracy theory has inspired citizens to hoard ammunition. “Gun enthusiasts fearful of new weapon controls…” (what weapon controls are you fearful of?) “…and alarmed by rumors of government hoarding are buying bullets practically by the bushel…” Yep. _Rumors_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-ammo-availability-situation-lately/661089.md?page=2)