# How is the Port Authority more responsible than the terrorists? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 31, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784 "2005-10-31T20:53:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784/1 "2005-10-31T20:53:54Z")
[Story](http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=auaBMcR5LnA4&refer=top_world_news) In a recent civil trial, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (the owners of the World Trade Center) were found 68 percent responsible for the Feb 26, 1993 bombing in which six people died. The terrorists were found to be 32 percent responsible. I’m kind of curious how the jury could possibly have found the PA _twice as responsible_ as the terrorists themselves? Certainly, if there were security lapses then the PA is responsible to some degree - but by what logic are they more responsible than the terrorists themselves? Zev Steinhardt Placed in GQ because I am looking for a factual answer. However, I realize that this could easily spill over into GD, IMHO or even the Pit. Please feel free to move if necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784/2 "2005-10-31T21:03:07Z")
I think the logic is that the Port Authority knew that the WTC was a target for terrorists and didn’t take the neccesary precautions to prevent the bomb. In other words, it was their negligence that allowed the people who died to die. ---
**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784/3 "2005-10-31T21:08:28Z")
From the site you link to: > [@](#): > > At the month-long trial, lawyers for the plaintiffs argued the Port Authority bore primary responsibility for the death and destruction by ignoring five reports that said the underground parking garage was a prime target for a terrorist attack. > > The Port Authority, a two-state, quasi-governmental agency, didn’t close the garage because it would have inconvenienced tenants and lost money, plaintiffs’ lawyers argued. So the line of argumentation was that attacks on the WTC had to be expected to happen sooner or later, so the Authority had to take precuations, which it didn’t because it would have reduced profits (by inconveniencing tenants). ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784/4 "2005-10-31T21:40:03Z")
I think the logic is that the Port Authority has money and the terrorist don’t (that we can seize). ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784/5 "2005-10-31T23:01:32Z")
I do not know any of the details of the WTC case, but it would appear to fall into the category of cases in which a landlord is sued for defective security precautions. Generally, an intentional wrongdoer should be more liable than a landlord who in merely negligent in its security precautions. But courts have found exceptions. In a more typical case, consider a building in a bad neighborhood, with a very high rate of assault where the front door lock is broken, and the landlord knews that the is broken and that it is likely that a tenant will be assaulted if the lock remains broken. If the landlord ignores the broken door lock and a tenant is assaulted by a criminal who gained access from the broken lock, then the landlord might be found liable. Or, as the New York courts have put it: “Landlords have a common-law duty to take minimal precautions to protect tenants from foreseeable harm, including foreseeable criminal conduct by a third person” [Venetal v City of New York](http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2005/2005_06920.htm) is a recent case regarding the rape of a young woman on the roof of a City housing project in Brooklyn. The court found that the plaintiff had brought forward enough information to defeat the City’s motion for summary judgment, allowing the case to go to trial to determine whether the City Housing Authority was liable. The court held (citations omitted): > [@](#): > > The experiential evidence of more than 70 felonies, including murder, forcible rape, arson, assault, and burglaries with forced entries, committed during the two years prior to the date the plaintiff was raped, demonstrate that the Glenwood Houses suffered from an extensive history of violent criminal activity. . . . > > A landlord may discharge its duty of care by providing functioning self-locking doors or other security devices at the entranceway to the building. However, if a door lock malfunctions and a tenant is assaulted, the landlord may be found liable for the failure to provide adequate security in response to foreseeable criminal conduct where the element of causation is established by the assailant’s status as an intruder. Whether the assailant was an intruder is ordinarily a triable issue of fact. . . . > > The plaintiff testified that she personally witnessed keys from one apartment building open the doors to other buildings in the housing complex. This evidence of a security lapse was corroborated by the superintendent of the housing complex. He conceded that when the door lock cylinders become worn, keys from one building’s door lock can fit the cylinders in another building’s door lock. He also testified that he was aware of tenant complaints that keys from one building opened the doors to other buildings. The superintendent acknowledged, were that the case, it would be a violation of the defendant’s policy, which was to have different key-lock combinations for each building and that keys to exterior doors were restricted to tenants of the particular building. > > This, of course, supports the inference that the assailant’s status was that of an intruder, particularly when viewed in light of the plaintiff’s testimony that her unidentified assailant, who told her that he lived in the housing complex and did not attempt to shield his identity, offered to open the locked exterior door for her. The WTC case was a jury verdict, which may well be overturned on appeal, that most likely held that it was forseeable that a terrorist would be likely to drive a vehicle bomb into the parking lot, and that the Port Authority, as landlord, should have taken precautions to avoid that. ---
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784/6 "2005-11-03T23:29:36Z")
> [@Billdo](#): > > I do not know any of the details of the WTC case, but it would appear to fall into the category of cases in which a landlord is sued for defective security precautions. > > Generally, an intentional wrongdoer should be more liable than a landlord who in merely negligent in its security precautions. But courts have found exceptions. > > In a more typical case, consider a building in a bad neighborhood, with a very high rate of assault where the front door lock is broken, and the landlord knews that the is broken and that it is likely that a tenant will be assaulted if the lock remains broken. If the landlord ignores the broken door lock and a tenant is assaulted by a criminal who gained access from the broken lock, then the landlord might be found liable. > > Or, as the New York courts have put it: “Landlords have a common-law duty to take minimal precautions to protect tenants from foreseeable harm, including foreseeable criminal conduct by a third person” > > [Venetal v City of New York](http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2005/2005_06920.htm) is a recent case regarding the rape of a young woman on the roof of a City housing project in Brooklyn. The court found that the plaintiff had brought forward enough information to defeat the City’s motion for summary judgment, allowing the case to go to trial to determine whether the City Housing Authority was liable. The court held (citations omitted): > > The WTC case was a jury verdict, which may well be overturned on appeal, that most likely held that it was forseeable that a terrorist would be likely to drive a vehicle bomb into the parking lot, and that the Port Authority, as landlord, should have taken precautions to avoid that. Thanks for the response, **Billdo**. I wasn’t questioning that the PA was responsible at all - certainly they should be if they ignored warnings. I was curious how it could be that they were more (indeed, twice as) responsible as the terrorists themselves. Zev Steinhardt ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784/7 "2005-11-04T02:07:26Z")
Frankly, I think **kanicbird** is on the right track. I suspect that Deep Pockets is probably playing a role here. Also, I think people may be forgetting that, in those days, terrorism simply did not rank very highly in the public consciousness. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-the-port-authority-more-responsible-than-the-terrorists/328784/8 "2005-11-04T22:14:03Z")
**Billdo** , do you have any thoughts on why the civil law must divide up a total of 100% of the responsibility in such a case? ISTM that that’s a defect in NY civil law that criminal law avoids - for instance, if three thugs beat someone to death, they don’t assign each thug 1/3 of the responsibility; the law can sentence each thug as if they’re 100% responsible, which is closer to the truth. I’d say that that’s the underlying problem with this case - the terrorists were 100% responsible for the 1993 bombing, but IIRC the Port Authority was well aware of the risk and (IMO and apparently in the jury’s as well) had a better-than-middlin’ responsibility for guarding against it, which they failed to do.