# How is trump still a viable candidate for president? Really, how?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [May 12, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949 "2023-05-12T14:28:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1184 "2024-03-25T15:30:45Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> But extended clips like your clip show that he meant to say ‘be reducing’ and reversed the first two syllables so it came out “re-be-du…_sigh_.”
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> Maybe it _is_ a sign that he’s losing it mentally, but in my mind a simple syllable flip is not nearly as bad as many other mental mixups he’s had,

I do a martial art, and our gradings for rank are conducted by a panel of judges. They expect people to make mistakes during the grading, but as I tell my dojo: “It’s often not the mistake that fails you, it’s how you react to the mistake.”

If you get flustered, a small mistake compounds into a bigger mistake, and then you’re done.

And that’s what I see here. Sure, “re-be-ducing” corrected to “be reducing” is a small error, but the “Oh, god, I did it again…” sad-sounding sigh that says he knows he screwed up, and that he knows he’s starting to lose it.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1185 "2024-03-25T15:41:10Z")

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“Broke Don and Little Marco” sounds like an amazing children’s book waiting to be written.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1186 "2024-03-25T15:46:57Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> And that’s what I see here. Sure, “re-be-ducing” corrected to “be reducing” is a small error, but the “Oh, god, I did it again…” sad-sounding sigh that says he knows he screwed up, and that he knows he’s starting to lose it.

I agree, and I did say upthread that the weird pause and sigh was worse than the syllable flip, and that it reminded me of a thing he’s been doing that I’ve heard is a coping tactic that people in the early stages of dementia often adopt-- when they lose their train of thought they do a quick change of subject, hoping that the gaffe is not noticed. That might have been what trump was about to do: “re-be-du…_sigh_…but I’ll tell ya folks, we got to get back to _ **building the wall!** _”; except he managed to get back on track in that particular instance.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1187 "2024-03-25T19:04:24Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> ETA II: And, happy anniversary!

Thanks! I was going to have a party later and invite the board, but now I’m in a funk because Trump’s bond requirement was reduced.

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**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1188 "2024-03-25T19:56:48Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I one-in-five chance of something happening is _big_. If you have five jugs of milk in your fridge, and I tell you that one of them is pukingly rancid, will you grab one jug at random and start chugging down?

I always like the “if you had one in five chance of winning the lottery, would you buy a ticket” for non-ticket-buyers - okay, so most people think winning the lottery is fantastic, and I don’t feel that way about Trump. But it is a very big chance, as you said. And I, who don’t live in a state with a lottery, and haven’t bought a ticket but maybe twice ever and not in over a decade, would certainly make the trip to neighboring state to buy one, even if odds were _only_ 1 in 5.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1189 "2024-03-25T20:13:32Z")

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Exactly!

Bret Stephens, in today’s NY Times:

“In an honest world, Truth Social would be renamed Lies Sociopathic.”

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1190 "2024-03-25T20:46:38Z")

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Don Poorleone is trending. Maybe a book about reasons to not be in a crime family?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1191 "2024-03-26T16:40:15Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Bret Stephens, in today’s NY Times:
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> “In an honest world, Truth Social would be renamed Lies Sociopathic.”

I find that those who openly proclaim themselves to be promoting the “truth” never are (see also: Pravda, Project Veritas).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1192 "2024-03-26T18:01:25Z")

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My Trump cultist FB friend posted a picture of Letitia James with two Trump Towers arranged in an ‘L’ shape on her forehead. I replied with the meme somebody made of James saying ‘I grabbed him by the assets. When you’re AG they let you.’ She said the Left fails at memes, and I reminded her that it’s a take on what Trump (I called Him her Messiah) said. Here response:

> who cares, I’ve said a lot worse things, I assure you and you probably have, too! 🙄 🙄 🙄

Here is a woman who’s been vocal about rape and sexual assault. But when Trump admits to it, it’s ‘Meh. Who cares?’

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1193 "2024-03-26T18:02:41Z")

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“Locker-room talk”.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1194 "2024-03-27T01:46:09Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Here is a woman who’s been vocal about rape and sexual assault. But when Trump admits to it, it’s ‘Meh. Who cares?’

My mother defends Trump because he never said to inject bleach into your system to fight COVID but said disinectant instead. It’s like trying to defend Trump by saying he’s not a rapist he just sexually assault someone which isn’t the flex they think it is.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1195 "2024-03-27T13:12:45Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> It’s like trying to defend Trump by saying he’s not a rapist he just sexually assault someone which isn’t the flex they think it is.

See also: excusing mocking a disable journalist by saying, “Oh, that’s just his standard “R\*\*\*ded Guy” bit!”

That doesn’t make it better!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1196 "2024-03-27T13:15:10Z")

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He _has_ a standard bit! Don’t you get it yet?

:bangs head on wall:

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1197 "2024-03-27T14:10:20Z")

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Get your _God Bless the USA_ bible now, only $60!

> **[Book of Donald: Trump hawks special ‘God Bless the USA’ Bibles for $60](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/26/trump-selling-bible)**
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> Former president sells Trump-endorsed Bible in concert with Lee Greenwood, country singer whose music is played at his rallies

It’s almost _too_ on the nose: the grift, the pandering, the utilization of the silly religious mythology of the nation’s founding. But good to see that it contains both testaments (we all know Trump is equally an old and new testament guy), and the sequel to Corinthians.

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Makes me wonder if he’s running for president or anti-Christ.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1199 "2024-03-27T14:17:10Z")

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No reason it can’t be both things  
😱 🔥 👿

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1200 "2024-03-27T22:39:49Z")

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He’s working his way up. Or is that down?

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1201 "2024-03-28T02:12:36Z")

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This was in response to my request for an explanation for the claim that the democrats are partially to blame for Trump.

> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/999506/40):
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> TPP, too PC, not keeping the “Defund the Police” stuff at bay. If minority communities want to defund, be my guest, let them police themselves, but the DTP stuff should have been kept at bay…

This sounds, to me, like the sort of _political correctness_ that the republicans peddled to obscure actual substantive discussions that were taking place.

For example, I assume that by TPP, you mean the trans pacific partnership. That was an agreement to strengthen the U.S. markets in Asia _other than_ China, thereby reducing their economy hegemony in the region. It made obvious sense, but was killed solely on the attitude that anything a democrat (and Obama specifically) had done was bad.

And _defund the police_ was a discussion point. At times, it coincided with sensible proposals to shift _some_ functions away from the police force (I.e. can we use mental health counselors for non-violent calls for help? Do we need to fund crossing guards through the police budget?)

If people were arguing for eliminating all police, then those people represented a fringe element. They always exist. The elimination of policing was never a serious policy proposal.

And if people truly decided to vote for Trump - despite his obvious status as a con artist loser - because they didn’t like certain _slogans_…well that’s just a special kind of snowflake. And a lost cause anyway.

Fortunately, and despite the best efforts of Fox News and its ilk, most people aren’t so easily frightened.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1202 "2024-03-28T02:12:49Z")

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Moving this from “Is Trump Confused” thread, as suggested by moderation, to discuss the idea that Trump is the product of both major U.S. parties:

> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/999506/40):
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> > [@Bulls99](#):
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> > TPP, too PC, not keeping the “Defund the Police” stuff at bay.

As a centrist, I would like to agree if I could. But so long as ours remains a free country, there is no way to prevent far-left people from making statements, just as is true for far-right statements. And defund the police did not come from the Democratic Party, besides that it predated the 2016 Trump nomination. Joe Biden says that most police are good.

I found the following article supporting your POV, and I will link to it even though I cannot fully buy it:

[How the Left Created Trump](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/how-the-left-created-donald-trump-214472/)

What about — how the right created AOC? Only thing is, the Democrats are not about to nominate her for the presidency.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1203 "2024-03-29T12:24:57Z")

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