# How is trump still a viable candidate for president? Really, how? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 12, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949 "2023-05-12T14:28:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1395 "2024-05-05T10:24:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Biden also passed the infrastructure measures Trump promised and did nothing about for four years. He brought manufacturing jobs back to the US (unlike Trump, who expanded his own businesses in China). He cut the deficit (unlike Trump who promised to but greatly increased it instead). He has strengthened America’s geopolitical alliances and power (unlike Trump who undermined our allies and kowtowed to hostile powers). Unemployment is at record lows, domestic energy production is at record highs (plus we are now heavily investing in green energy), stock markets are doing well, the post-pandemic inflation spike was brought way down quickly, and the border is actually more secure than it was under Trump. Yes! I just don’t get the “Ugh! I guess I’ll hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils” sentiment. Biden has been terrific. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1396 "2024-05-05T12:13:20Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > he could murder someone on Fifth Avenue A small sidebar-why did he say Fifth Avenue specifically? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1397 "2024-05-05T12:29:26Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > I want to believe that support has cratered, but I’m so insulated from genuine Trumpists that I have no window in. > > Actual journalism would be preferable to journalistic speculation, but I don’t know where to find that. Support has cratered, in the sense that hardly anyone is showing up outside the courthouse to cheer Donald on. And I think that a January 6 repeat is unlikely. But there are many millions who mildly dislike Trump but are strongly enough anti-anti-Trump to vote for him. I just came across an outstanding magazine article showing one slice of what anti-anti-Trump can feel like: > **[The Blindness of Elites](https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-blindness-of-elites/)** > > Walter Kirn and the empty politics of defiance Progressives may be repelled by the fact the above article is on a center-right web site, and say that the thoroughly never-Trump article author is only a few steps removed from the anti-anti-Trump guy he profiles. This may be true! The farther removed you get from Trumpworld, the harder to understand his appeal. (The linked article is also at [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/walter-kirn/678187/), but there it is behind a paywall.) ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1398 "2024-05-05T12:35:24Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > A small sidebar-why did he say Fifth Avenue specifically? Because that way he can just point the gun out his apartment window. > **[How to Visit Trump Tower in New York City](https://freetoursbyfoot.com/trump-tower-new-york-city/)** > > This post is about visiting Trump Tower, how to get there, what to expect to see and much more. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1399 "2024-05-05T12:59:07Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > A small sidebar-why did he say Fifth Avenue specifically? Q.Q. isn’t wrong – but I think it’s basically that Fifth Ave. is the Main Street of Manhattan. (Broadway is a close second, arguably). ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1400 "2024-05-05T13:33:08Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > A small sidebar-why did he say Fifth Avenue specifically? Trump Tower is on 5th Avenue. He was saying he could just walk out of his business and shoot someone. > **[Trump Tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower)** > > Trump Tower is a 58-story, 664-foot-tall (202 m) mixed-use condominium skyscraper at 721–725 Fifth Avenue in the Midtown Manhattan neighborhood of New York City, between East 56th and 57th Streets. The building contains the headquarters for the Trump Organization, as well as the penthouse residence of its developer, the businessman and former U.S. president Donald Trump. Several members of the Trump family also live, or have lived, in the building. The tower stands on a plot where the flagshi... ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1401 "2024-05-05T14:03:04Z")
Very interesting, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1402 "2024-05-05T15:18:30Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Q.Q. isn’t wrong – but I think it’s basically that Fifth Ave. is the Main Street of Manhattan. (Broadway is a close second, arguably). Doing something outrageous “in the middle of Fifth Avenue” is a phrase that long predates Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1403 "2024-05-05T15:42:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Biden also passed the infrastructure measures Trump promised and did nothing about for four years. Heck, even Republicans like Lauren Boebert, who voted against the infrastructure bill, took credit for it in her district. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1404 "2024-05-05T17:42:51Z")
Wow, Kim is quite an insufferable, self-important, conspiratorial asshole and crank. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1405 "2024-05-05T17:57:59Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > Wow, Kim is quite an insufferable, self-important, conspiratorial asshole and crank. Why, I’ll bet his name isn’t even Kim! ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1406 "2024-05-05T18:19:09Z")
Another victim of bad keming. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1407 "2024-05-05T18:34:22Z")
D’oh! My eyes aren’t what they used to be. I read it as “Kim” each of the dozens of time I saw it in the article. ---
**Author:** ![BrickBat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@BrickBat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrickBat)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1408 "2024-05-06T00:31:49Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Libertarian > [@enipla](#): > > Isn’t a big part of their platform “Rules don’t apply to me” Republicans anyway are a bit like SovCit’s, with a cup of “I want to boss others around as well as not have any rules for me” In parallel, they want government out of their lives, except when they want the muscle of the state to protect them from their slaves. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1409 "2024-05-06T15:59:51Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Another victim of bad keming. Kirning? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1410 "2024-05-06T17:22:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Kirning? [Kerning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning). With an e. And I’m pretty sure that putting an **m** instead of **rn** is a deliberate joke. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1411 "2024-05-06T18:08:01Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > [Kerning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning). With an e. Kirn with an I. > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I just came across an outstanding magazine article showing one slice of what anti-anti-Trump can feel like: > > [Walter Kirn and the empty politics of defiance](https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-blindness-of-elites/) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1412 "2024-05-06T20:22:23Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > [Kerning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning). With an e. > > And I’m pretty sure that putting an **m** instead of **rn** is a deliberate joke. As was “Kirning”. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1413 "2024-05-07T12:21:41Z")
I don’t think this endorsement will have a large effect on the race, but hopefully, it’s another burr under Trump’s saddle. > **[Georgia's former lieutenant governor backs Biden in high-profile defection...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/georgias-former-lieutenant-governor-backs-biden-high-profile-defection-rcna150894)** > > Former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan was also the leading contender to run for president on No Labels' centrist third-party ticket. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1414 "2024-05-07T13:32:08Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > but hopefully, it’s another burr under Trump’s saddle. I want the burr on top of the saddle. Or on his courtroom chair. 'Couse he may not feel it because of his Depends. (yes I know burr under the saddle is a standard saying). Ohhh. I want a Barr **under** the saddle. That bastard deserves it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949.md?page=71)