# How Jon Stewart Turned Lies into Comedy... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 16, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769 "2015-02-16T00:37:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/181 "2015-02-19T17:18:46Z")
FWIW, more recent studies show that type of thing is counterproductive. You should look into it. Maybe that’s your problem right there. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/182 "2015-02-19T17:27:40Z")
I am aware of the research. It’s more nuanced than you’re making it out to be. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/183 "2015-02-19T17:27:49Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I was very upfront about it in the OP. You didn’t need to go to an elaborate search. Sorry for continuing the hijack but … “elaborate search”? My point was _ **exactly the opposite** _: the domain [nypost.com](http://nypost.com) in your link told us what we needed to know, without any further search or elaboration. That rag, owned by Guess Who, is just one of many news sources or think tanks which I’ve learned might as well be Click\_Here\_only\_for\_Amusement.com. Sorry you took my comment personally; that wasn’t my intent. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/184 "2015-02-19T17:35:53Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I am aware of the research. It’s more nuanced than you’re making it out to be. On glancing around a bit it would seem that this is correct. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/185 "2015-02-19T17:47:00Z")
“Golly, I’m sorry about that, **LHoD**.” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/186 "2015-02-19T17:48:14Z")
Baby steps, andros. Baby steps. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/187 "2015-02-19T17:55:04Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Sorry for continuing the hijack but … “elaborate search”? > > My point was _ **exactly the opposite** _: the domain [nypost.com](http://nypost.com) in your link told us what we needed to know, without any further search or elaboration. That rag, owned by Guess Who, is just one of many news sources or think tanks which I’ve learned might as well be Click\_Here\_only\_for\_Amusement.com. > > Sorry you took my comment personally; that wasn’t my intent. It’s OK. I took your comment to mean that you went looking to find what it was all about. You didn’t even need to go so far as to scrutinize my link, though, as I say. And look at the new branches that grew up between our two exchanges. They’ve wandered far off the main topic into odd personal comments. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/188 "2015-02-19T17:56:26Z")
OK, I know where we went from thread to hi-jack, but when did we arrive at Mongolian Clusterfuck? ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/189 "2015-02-19T18:05:51Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Baby steps, andros. Baby steps. You would want someone to apologize for acknowleging that you’ve made a correct statement? I would guess you rarely ever make that type of acknowlegment altogether. Actually, I wouldn’t guess - I’ve seen you in action. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/190 "2015-02-19T18:08:31Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > You would want someone to apologize for acknowleging that you’ve made a correct statement? When you used a dishonest statement to insult someone? Well, yeah. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/191 "2015-02-19T18:10:07Z")
Wait around for that to happen. Might be a while, though. But you have time, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/192 "2015-02-19T18:18:01Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > You would want someone to apologize for acknowleging that you’ve made a correct statement? No. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/193 "2015-02-19T18:19:37Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > Wait around for that to happen. Might be a while, though. But you have time, apparently. For you to apologize for being wrong when insulting someone? Yup, I don’t expect that to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/194 "2015-02-19T18:44:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > OK, I know where we went from thread to hi-jack, but when did we arrive at Mongolian Clusterfuck? Toe bone connected to the foot bone … > [@andros](#): > > For you to apologize for being wrong when insulting someone? Yup, I don’t expect that to happen. Ah, a Pee Wee Herman fan, I see … ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/195 "2015-02-19T18:59:07Z")
You keep on fucking that chicken, **Phipps**. If this is really the online persona you wish to cultivate, have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/196 "2015-02-19T19:01:15Z")
I think the opposite. You keep grasping for that one insult that’s going to put you over the top. But I don’t think it’s there for you. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/197 "2015-02-20T00:34:56Z")
**F-P** , you’re an idiot and an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/198 "2015-02-20T00:44:19Z")
> [@Subterraneanus](#): > > **F-P** , you’re an idiot and an asshole. He’s the only person I’ve ever put on ignore here on this message board. I’d rather read a thousand adaher, clothahump, or even elucidator posts than a single F-P post. My only regret is when people quote him. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/199 "2015-02-20T04:45:44Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I think that unfairly exaggerates his importance. And understates his impotence. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/200 "2015-02-20T05:18:00Z")
He’s not so much a bully as an aspirational bully. Good to have ambition, I suppose. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769.md?page=9)