# How Jon Stewart Turned Lies into Comedy... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 16, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769 "2015-02-16T00:37:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/141 "2015-02-18T22:32:52Z")
Thanks, andros. Your contributions are always appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/142 "2015-02-18T22:37:50Z")
I’m “troubled” because it’s nigh-impossible to have a discussion with someone who is constantly questioning your sincerity. I suppose that might just be a signal that any chance at a reasonable discussion is gone. That’s how I’ll try to take it going forward. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/143 "2015-02-18T22:39:44Z")
On this MB, I call it as I see it. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/144 "2015-02-18T22:59:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m “troubled” because it’s nigh-impossible to have a discussion with someone who is constantly questioning your sincerity. I suppose that might just be a signal that any chance at a reasonable discussion is gone. That’s how I’ll try to take it going forward. Probably a good idea. Everyone should do what works for them. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/145 "2015-02-18T23:20:51Z")
Like “habitually conversing in poor faith and being an asshole” works for **Phipps**. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/146 "2015-02-18T23:23:50Z")
Such hostility. Hey, life can be tough, but you’ve got to deal with it. Do you have a therapist that you talk to? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/147 "2015-02-19T00:21:59Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Article was a butthurt no-name media man still trying to justify a war based on false premises and trashing another media man who actually speaks the truth once in a while. > > Stewart makes me laugh. That guy makes me cry. Stewart makes me laugh because he’s funny. This guy makes me laugh because he’s pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/148 "2015-02-19T00:25:58Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > But why is there almost nobody **funny** on the right? _Mallard Fillmore_ is not funny . . . Is that still around? I thought somebody had stolen the guy’s rubber-stamp set or something… ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/149 "2015-02-19T00:30:34Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Not every Jon Stewart can aspire to be a Carl… Kyle? Can hope to one day be a Kyle… sorry, I’ve forgotten the last name. Small? Smith? No. Oh, it is Smith? > > Point is, there’s relevant, and there’s _Carl Smith_ relevant, and Jon fancy-pants Stewart would do well to remember the name Kyle Smalls. Sims. Smith. Smith? Kyle Smith. That guy is going places. You are my new hero. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/150 "2015-02-19T02:17:02Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > I’ve never liked Jon Stewart, but Kyle Smith was over the top. > > A better take, the best take on Stewart ever: > > [The Overhyped Reaction To Jon Stewart Leaving ‘The Daily Show’ | FiveThirtyEight](http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-overhyped-reaction-to-jon-stewart-leaving/) > > The guy gets lower ratings than\*\*\* Family Guy \*\*\*re-runs or even _ **The Mike Huckabee Show** _. He doesn’t matter to many people. It just so happens, among the few people who like him are liberal media members who give him far more attention than his small talents and small ratings ever merited. > > And Stephen Colbert mattered had even fewer viewers than\*\*\* Cleveland Show \*\*\*reruns. When he gets similar ratings in Letterman’s spot, NBC will wonder, “What happened? He was so popular at Comedy Central.” > > But’s he’s NOT that popular at Comedy Central. So why did the network pay him $25 million a year? I admit that I have no idea what the ratings actually were, but really large corporations aren’t in the habit of paying really enormous salaries to people simply because their “liberal media” friends are fans. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/151 "2015-02-19T02:45:34Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > Such hostility. Hey, life can be tough, but you’ve got to deal with it. > > Do you have a therapist that you talk to? Dude, you’re the one who seems to need a therapist. Andy is repeating basic psychological guides on how to interact with other people. He’s spelling out exactly what is wrong with the way you interact with him, what makes it totally irrational. And you fall back to platitudes that show a lack of any actual knowledge. It’s not as if Andy says anything that anyone else on this board doesn’t say. But, for some reason, you have a hardon for him. You have this bully mentality where you enjoy pretending like he’s a horrible person, assuming the worst of anything he says. The one guy on this board who actually acts like a rational human being when discussing these things, and you accuse him of shitty stuff. I don’t know why you have such a fixation with him, or why you continue to post on this board. My only guess is that you like to stir up shit. Andros is responding exactly the way any normal human being would to the shit you say. You know this, as multiple posters have said the exact same type of thing to you. But you live in a la-la land where you are right and everyone else is wrong. That is why you need to see a therapist. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/152 "2015-02-19T04:13:40Z")
Phipps is a parody of himself. It’s okay to laugh. ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/153 "2015-02-19T08:41:57Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > I’ve never liked Jon Stewart, but Kyle Smith was over the top. > > A better take, the best take on Stewart ever: > > [The Overhyped Reaction To Jon Stewart Leaving ‘The Daily Show’ | FiveThirtyEight](http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-overhyped-reaction-to-jon-stewart-leaving/) > > The guy gets lower ratings than\*\*\* Family Guy \*\*\*re-runs or even _ **The Mike Huckabee Show** _. He doesn’t matter to many people. It just so happens, among the few people who like him are liberal media members who give him far more attention than his small talents and small ratings ever merited. > > And Stephen Colbert mattered had even fewer viewers than\*\*\* Cleveland Show \*\*\*reruns. When he gets similar ratings in Letterman’s spot, NBC will wonder, “What happened? He was so popular at Comedy Central.” > > But’s he’s NOT that popular at Comedy Central. Ratings don’t mean Jack Shit anymore. Who actually watches TV shows at the time they are scheduled, or even on a television? I cut the cable years ago, and I get the Daily Show from iTunes. How do people like me show up in your silly ratings? ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/154 "2015-02-19T14:07:56Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Dude, you’re the one who seems to need a therapist. Andy is repeating basic psychological guides on how to interact with other people. He’s spelling out exactly what is wrong with the way you interact with him, what makes it totally irrational. And you fall back to platitudes that show a lack of any actual knowledge. > > It’s not as if Andy says anything that anyone else on this board doesn’t say. But, for some reason, you have a hardon for him. You have this bully mentality where you enjoy pretending like he’s a horrible person, assuming the worst of anything he says. > > The one guy on this board who actually acts like a rational human being when discussing these things, and you accuse him of shitty stuff. I don’t know why you have such a fixation with him, or why you continue to post on this board. My only guess is that you like to stir up shit. > > Andros is responding exactly the way any normal human being would to the shit you say. You know this, as multiple posters have said the exact same type of thing to you. > > But you live in a la-la land where you are right and everyone else is wrong. That is why you need to see a therapist. There’s nothing factual to address here, and in general I’m loath to discuss issues with you due to your limitations. But what does interest me is this: You are probably the single biggest pathetic whiner on this board, with a remarkably high level of posts complaining about how your feelings were hurt because of mean things people said to you. And yet, you manage to combine this with being a monumentally sanctimonious prick in your even more frequent criticisms of others. How does this reconcile? > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Phipps is a parody of himself. It’s okay to laugh. Having seen you in action here and there I can recognize this theme as the staple of your initial braggadocio. The whimpering comes later. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/155 "2015-02-19T14:23:45Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > Having seen you in action here and there I can recognize this theme as the staple of your initial braggadocio. The whimpering comes later. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/156 "2015-02-19T14:28:12Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > ☹ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/157 "2015-02-19T14:50:49Z")
Ah. Got it. Just another bully, then. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/158 "2015-02-19T14:55:32Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Ah. Got it. Just another bully, then. I think that unfairly exaggerates his importance. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/159 "2015-02-19T15:03:13Z")
> [@eulalia](#): > > Ratings don’t mean Jack Shit anymore. Who actually watches TV shows at the time they are scheduled, or even on a television? I cut the cable years ago, and I get the Daily Show from iTunes. How do people like me show up in your silly ratings? Oh, so nobody’s watching but EVERYBODY’S watching. Gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769/160 "2015-02-19T15:19:09Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I think that unfairly exaggerates his importance. Odd thing about this is that I seem to be of unusual importance to you personally. Maybe you and andros should form a support group. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-jon-stewart-turned-lies-into-comedy/712769.md?page=9)