# How long are we going to 'tolerate' intolerance, esp Islamic fundamentalism?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407 "2024-03-26T18:34:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Imuseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbce88/32.png) [@Imuseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imuseless)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/81 "2024-03-27T05:54:58Z")

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I’m not white. I’m a brown hindu. I never visit stormfromt. Fuck Stormfront that website should be shutdown.

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**Author:** ![Imuseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbce88/32.png) [@Imuseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imuseless)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/82 "2024-03-27T05:55:34Z")

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Rape is wrong. Nobody deserves to get raped even a rapist doesn’t deserves to get raped.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/83 "2024-03-27T05:56:25Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> I’m not white. I’m a brown hindu.

Being a brown Hindu doesn’t mean you can’t also be a white supremacist. Just ask Vivek Ramaswamy.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/84 "2024-03-27T05:57:07Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> I’m not white. I’m a brown hindu.

And when they’re through with the Muslims and they come for you what are you going to say then?

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**Author:** ![Imuseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbce88/32.png) [@Imuseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imuseless)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/85 "2024-03-27T06:01:37Z")

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I will just move to India. I been to India four times and I can adjust there easily.

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**Author:** ![Imuseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbce88/32.png) [@Imuseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imuseless)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/86 "2024-03-27T06:06:59Z")

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White supremacist hates us Hindus. Vivek Ramaswamy wants to stop illegal immmigrants from like White Canadians, Mexicans, Russian, Ukrainians, Venezuelans, Peruvians, Chinese, Romanians and other South Americans from crossing the border illegally. Vivek Ramaswamy doesn’t care about white supremacy. It’s a shame he dropped out. USA needs to build a wall between Canada. Like I said I’m a brown Hindu born in Detroit but moved to Canada when I was a minor at 12 and sometimes we have illegal white Americans crossing the Canadian border up to no good with sometimes human trafficking just like how illegal white Canadian go to USA up to no good like drug trafficking and human trafficking.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/87 "2024-03-27T06:20:23Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> Lot of white scandinavians in Scandinavian countries like Norway, Denmark and Sweden complain about Muslim men raping white women so they would be glad to have White Americans, White Canadians, White Australians and White New Zealanders as immigrants

Why yes of course, Scandanavian countries will welcome all the Neo Nazi white supremacists who can’t speak the language, are American citizens, have never left the country and are Norse religion extremists that worship Odin and Thor that you want the US to deport there. Can’t see them having any problems with that.

Oh wait, I think I can see another flaw in your logic apart from all of that. **You can’t deport someone to somewhere they’ve never been.** The closest words you are looking for are Ethnic Cleansing.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/88 "2024-03-27T06:30:45Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> Like I said I’m a brown Hindu born in Detroit but moved to Canada when I was a minor at 12 and sometimes we have illegal white Americans crossing the Canadian border up to no good with sometimes human trafficking just like how illegal white Canadian go to USA up to no good like drug trafficking and human trafficking

Sounds to me then like we need to “deport” all the white people from America and Canada. It would solve a lot of problems.

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> **You can’t deport someone to somewhere they’ve never been.** The closest words you are looking for are Ethnic Cleansing.

Fantastic point. Maybe we need to explain why genocide and ethnic cleansing are bad things? Even when it’s a religious minority that has clearly made Imuseless’s life a living hell?

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**Author:** ![Imuseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbce88/32.png) [@Imuseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imuseless)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/89 "2024-03-27T06:51:38Z")

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Yes white people should be deported to Europe and Muslims should be deported to Muslim countries. Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand belong to aboriginal people. If aboriginal people took over Canada and deported me to Indian because I’m of Indian descent I would gladly go to India. Deportation can sometimes be a blessing in disguise depending on the country if it’s not communist or fascist dictatorship.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/90 "2024-03-27T07:01:37Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Maybe we need to explain why genocide and ethnic cleansing are bad things? Even when it’s a religious minority that has clearly made Imuseless’s life a living hell?

Looks like we in fact do have to explain to him that ethnic cleansing is a bad idea. I don’t know about Mr.Useless having his life made a living hell by Muslims though, seeing as he was born in the US and went on to live in Canada at the age of 12. I guess him deciding to take a job working under the table for cash from Muslims must have been a living hell for him. Hmm, come to think of it, working under the table is a crime. I guess we should have him ‘deported’. I propose Uganda, [they used to have a large Indian population before being expelled](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Asians_from_Uganda#:~:text=In%20early%20August%201972%2C%20the,trade%20under%20British%20colonial%20policies.). I’m sure he’ll have no problems fitting in there not knowing the language.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/91 "2024-03-27T07:02:05Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> Yes white people should be deported to Europe and Muslims should be deported to Muslim countries. Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand belong to aboriginal people.

So are you just against immigration in general? Everyone should just stay in the general geographic region that their long dead ancestors happened to live in? That sounds so backwards.

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> If aboriginal people took over Canada and deported me to Indian because I’m of Indian descent I would gladly go to India.

Well bully for you. That doesn’t mean any country should should be forcibly removing its own citizens because they’re the wrong skin color or religion. Which is what your advocating.

And you might be a “brown Hindu”, (personally I’m skeptical of the veracity of your statements), but I stand by my stormfront statement. Your rhetoric would be much more acceptable there than it is here. If you pretended to be white you probably would be welcomed with open arms.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/92 "2024-03-27T07:09:32Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> Fuck Stormfront that website should be shutdown.

You and Stormfront have a lot in common. You both approve of shipping Black people back to Africa, for example.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/93 "2024-03-27T07:15:13Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> I will just move to India. I been to India four times and I can adjust there easily.

Well, you’ve got the Muslim hating part down already, so ye, you’ll fit _right_ in with the Indian authorities.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/94 "2024-03-27T07:20:41Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> Yes white people should be deported to Europe and Muslims should be deported to Muslim countries.

Absurd. Nobody is responsible for the sins of their ancestors. I may not be aboriginal, but America is where I was born and it’s where I hope to live out the rest of my life. I wouldn’t fit in in Scotland or Italy any more than a black American would fit in in west Africa.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/95 "2024-03-27T07:29:06Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Ethnic Cleansing

Also known as _genocide_.

> [@Imuseless](#):
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> If aboriginal people took over Canada and deported me to Indian because I’m of Indian descent I would gladly go to India.

You’re missing something very important here. Will _India_ have _you_? You’ve been a tourist in India four times. You have not tried to immigrate.\* Also, there are a lot of Muslims in India. Doesn’t that kind of negate the place as a desirable destination for you?

\*And if you have tried to immigrate, then the answer to my query about India and you is a decided _no_.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/96 "2024-03-27T07:36:31Z")

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> [@Imuseless](#):
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> If aboriginal people took over Canada and deported me to Indian because I’m of Indian descent

But your proposal to deport white people to Europe or Scandinavia implicitly suggests you have no idea what country to which these people would be sent.

How would you like it if you were sent to Pakistan or Bangladesh instead of India?

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/97 "2024-03-27T07:38:49Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Also, there are a lot of Muslims in India. Doesn’t that kind of negate the place as a desirable destination for you?

Using my psychic powers, I’m sure he’d just have them genocided ethnically cleansed ‘deported’ to Pakistan. You know, where they ‘belong’.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/98 "2024-03-27T07:51:40Z")

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The human being, since before we were fully upright, has being moving and travelling to new places. It’s practically in our DNA.

“Explore new places and new civilizations”  
Haven’t you ever watched Star Trek?

This is where immigration comes from. The wish to go to a new place for 1000s of reasons. Sure indigenous peoples deserve peace and respect in their land. No one tribe of indigenous people can own America.  
Of course, dragging the unwilling to another place was/is wrong. But it’s what happened. We are now a nation of immigrants. From every country. Races of every kind. And a multitude of mixes. You can’t unravel us. It’s what America is.

Muslims are no different than other humans. Some good, some bad. You can’t chop a whole slice of humanity away just because some are bad or different. Didn’t work out too well for Hitler. And other historic times.

Where-ever you’re getting your information is tainted. You need to find a new place to read.  
We all have things that are intolerable to us. You need to not act on these feelings.  
Try to figure out why you have this racist view of Muslims or other people.

Because you are just wrong in your thinking.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/99 "2024-03-27T08:57:49Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Muslims are no different than other humans. Some good, some bad. You can’t chop a whole slice of humanity away just because some are bad or different.

Like I said above, most Muslims of my acquaintance here in Canada moved here to get away from overbearing Islam in their home countries. They may have left Pakistan or India or Indonesia, but they want to be Canadian or American more than they want to be Islamic. Heck, one of the Muslim players on our softball team years ago would have a beer with us after our games. Lite beer, but still.

Painting Muslims with one brush does a disservice to Muslims who are perfectly happy being Muslim, but who don’t necessarily adhere to all the tenets of Islam, or are at least able to find wiggle room in them (e.g. our softball player who drank lite beer). Pretty sure that most I’ve known have never made the _hajj_ and are unlikely to, and they may not necessarily observe Ramadan. Why? Well, work gets in the way. Business lunches, softball games that always ended with beer and wings in a bar, those sorts of things. Family commitments—Billy wants his friend Mohammad to come to his birthday party. Obviously no alcohol will be served (they’re kids), but it’s Ramadan. Mohammad is unable to eat during daylight hours. But it’s Billy’s party. So as not to offend his hosts, Mohammad tucks into cake and ice cream when the sun is still up! Horrors!

Naw, not really. Muslims in North America make do. They have to. And they have little interest in converting anybody. At least, if the ones of my acquaintance are anything to go by.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/100 "2024-03-27T09:06:32Z")

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This is juvenile nonsense. It’s extremism and fanatacism that are the problems, not entire religions.

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