# How long are we going to 'tolerate' intolerance, esp Islamic fundamentalism? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407 "2024-03-26T18:34:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/161 "2024-03-29T02:27:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’m inclined to assume he meant to put a comma in there, but the meaning is clear; he’s a brown Hindu, not one of those black southern Indians who don’t even speak Hindi. Agreed. I read “true people” the way others seem to, but a missing comma makes sense too. Regardless your original point is still valid. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/162 "2024-03-29T02:31:25Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’m inclined to assume he meant to put a comma in there, but the meaning is clear; he’s a brown Hindu, not one of those black southern Indians who don’t even speak Hindi. ISTM that one has to be really trying (to put the worst construction on that post) to parse it that way. For that to work, he’d be implying that he, a speaker of Hindi, is NOT a true person. Just consider it as a punctuation fail. It’s so much simpler. (Full disclosure: I found the sentence jarring myself for a few seconds, before I thought to mentally add the comma.) ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/163 "2024-03-29T02:52:44Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > ISTM that one has to be really trying (to put the worst construction on that post) to parse it that way. Maybe. But I think smapti, myself, and others are taking into account his full posting history not just that one post. And the truly damning part isn’t the ‘true people’ remark, it’s the use of the word ‘brown’. Consider this: if a random American citizen came up to you and described themselves as a ‘white Christian’ what would be your first assumption about that? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/164 "2024-03-29T03:10:02Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Consider this: if a random American citizen came up to you and described themselves as a ‘white Christian’ what would be your first assumption about that? They’re voting for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/165 "2024-03-29T03:27:53Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > ISTM that one has to be really trying (to put the worst construction on that post) to parse it that way. > > Maybe. But I think smapti, myself, and others are taking into account his full posting history not just that one post. And the truly damning part isn’t the ‘true people’ remark, it’s the use of the word ‘brown’. > > Consider this: if a random American citizen came up to you and described themselves as a ‘white Christian’ what would be your first assumption about that? You’ll get no argument from me that he’s a whackadoodle segregationist, and very likely a bigot to boot. I’m only pushing back on the notion of that one sentence being a supporting data point for that analysis. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/166 "2024-03-29T03:47:15Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I’m only pushing back on the notion of that one sentence being a supporting data point for that analysis. Fair enough. I will agree with that. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/167 "2024-03-29T11:54:38Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, that’s what happens when we are a hive mind. Or did you not get that memo? Mine goes right in the spam folder. Take that, Cecil! ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/168 "2024-03-29T18:01:00Z")
In the United States I’ve generally seen “brown” being used to distinguish from “white”. I thought the poster was trying to say that they’re not generally taken for white, and to claim that they’ve been discriminated against for being “brown”. But I have no idea what the usage is in India. There was plenty of other reason to ban that poster, though. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/169 "2024-03-29T18:25:04Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, that’s what happens when we are a hive mind. Or did you not get that memo? Can you really call it a hive mind if you have to use memos? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/170 "2024-04-01T17:33:09Z")
> [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > Can you really call it a hive mind if you have to use memos? Clearly, we communicate using a figure 8 waggle dance. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407/171 "2024-04-02T21:43:24Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > For that to work, he’d be implying that he, a speaker of Hindi, is NOT a true person. FWIW, Gujurati is the predominant language in the north-west province of Gujurat. This was where Mahatma Ghandi’s ashram was. He, himself, probably spoke Hindi but dual language in that area would be rare, and tend towards English. India is a complex country, in many, many ways. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-are-we-going-to-tolerate-intolerance-esp-islamic-fundamentalism/999407.md?page=8)