# How long before Trump gets shot? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 12, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749 "2016-03-12T17:06:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/161 "2016-03-14T14:02:54Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Trump is not going to get shot. > > I put higher odds on one of his supporters shooting a protester. That’s my take on it, too. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/162 "2016-03-14T14:11:19Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Trump is not going to get shot. > > I put higher odds on one of his supporters shooting a protester. > [@jsgoddess](#): > > That’s my take on it, too. Me three. I mean, think about it, we have had a Black President for nearly eight years and there has not been one credible attempt on his life (albeit that there might have been plans for such an attempt that were foiled), thanks to improved security measures. If that didn’t happen, I can’t see it happening to Trump. If I had to guess, Hilary would be a more probable target than the Donald, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/163 "2016-03-14T14:28:39Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > What’s the debate here? Whether someone will shoot Trump? I’ll take “no” for $500, because why would anyone bother and he now possesses his own SS detail. That would have to be one of the saddest ways to go. Taking a bullet for Trump. I sincerely hope no one, of any political persuasion, takes a shot at Trump, repugnant as he is. America needs to use the power of the vote to ensure he does not become the nominee. If he makes the nomination, then America needs to use the power of the vote to ensure he never becomes president; and then address the insanity that brought such a clown too, too close to becoming the nation’s leader. If, god have mercy and forgiveness eternal, he actually gets elected, then America needs to live with that shame for four solid years, wearing the pointy hat and facing the corner. > [@leftfield6](#): > > A modest proposal: > > Right to Free Speech - First Amendment. > > I think we all agree that no Government agency is interfering with Trump’s 1st Amendment rights. > > So, stop saying the term “free speech” or “freedom of speech” when you are referring to someone’s ability to deliver a speech without being interrupted by an INDIVIDUAL, such as a protester. You’re just confusing matters. > > Come up with another term. Something like “freedom to express” or whatever the F you want to use. Just stop saying “freedom of speech”, unless you just like continuing to beat that horse. I fully concur with this modest proposal. (So much easier to swallow than what that Swift chap recommended.) > [@billfish678](#): > > If you won’t let a speaker speak by yelling or booing or whatever such that they can’t be heard…or you intimidate the listeners (or the speaker) by implied threats of violence…or you physically block access so that people that want to hear what the speaker is saying can’t get into the event… > > Well, “you” don’t believe in free speech. > [@billfish678](#): > > Nobody is confusing matters. At least anyone one with half a brain. > > FIRST AMENDMENT means the gubment can’t come after your ass if you say “the prez sucks donkey balls” > > Free speech means (and has been noted several times in this thread) you get to actually SAY something without some jackass trying to shout over you, interrupt you, or otherwise keep you from actually saying something. > > The actual content is irrelevant. What the gubment does is irrelevant. > > If I can’t say what I want without a fight BEFORE/DURING what the fuck I am trying to say…you don’t believe in freedom of speech. I’m not sure that “Freedom of Speech” as you’re defining it actually exists in your country (or mine for that matter). If that is Freedom of Speech, then someone such as Bill O’Reilly, for example, would be denying Freedom of Speech when he talks over his guests. Even Obama would be denying Freedom of Speech when he wags his finger and admonishes some loudmouth jerk with “Hey, You’re in my house . . .”. (Which, by the way, I thought was damn classy.) I get that you’re saying the value of free speech should be respected beyond the narrow confines of the legal definition of Freedom of Speech. I agree that it’s a noble value to [engage in open discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19177333&postcount=103), to [allow others to voice their ideas](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19177355&postcount=108) and to [open your ears](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19177369&postcount=111) [and mind](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19177418&postcount=113) up to [divergent opinions](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19177425&postcount=115), like, say, on [a message board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19177433&postcount=117) devoted to [fighting ignorance](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19177437&postcount=120). As to the protesters, although a part of me is smugly satisfied that they shut down “the other guy’s” event, I do think they’re making a big mistake if that was indeed their intent. This just escalates the animosity between the two camps. Better to take the high road. Assemble outside the convention center in a peaceful show of opposition. Hand out flyers that educate people about the true, vile nature of the Trump (_The Dangers of Catching the Trump, and How to Protect Yourself_). If you want to go into the convention, be a silent protester. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/164 "2016-03-14T14:32:08Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Trump is not going to get shot. > > I put higher odds on one of his supporters shooting a protester. Yep. Much higher odds there. Higher still for grievous beatings. When Trump says crap like “I’d like to punch him in the face,” you can bet it won’t be long before one of his supporters says “I shall be thy hands.” ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/165 "2016-03-14T14:32:45Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Trump is not going to get shot. > > I put higher odds on one of his supporters shooting a protester. This is what I’ve been thinking for a few weeks now. Seeing how the anger and scuffles have been spiraling up at his rallies, I’m afraid that it’s just a matter of time before a protester is either shot, or beaten to death by a mob at a rally. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/166 "2016-03-14T14:37:06Z")
Can we please start referring to the Secret Service by their full name in this thread? The pairing of “Trump” and “SS” is beginning to get to me. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/167 "2016-03-14T14:41:19Z")
I wondered if anyone would catch that. What is the correct acronym for the Secret Service? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/168 "2016-03-14T14:44:23Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > I wondered if anyone would catch that. > > What is the correct acronym for the Secret Service? The SS. _flees_ ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/169 "2016-03-14T14:46:01Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Can we please start referring to the Secret Service by their full name in this thread? The pairing of “Trump” and “SS” is beginning to get to me. Seconded. As to the OP, I’m with those who say the chances of the Donald’s being shot are essentially nil, and also that I hope to hell it doesn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/170 "2016-03-14T14:49:16Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > I wondered if anyone would catch that. > > What is the correct acronym for the Secret Service? It’s a secret. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/171 "2016-03-14T14:51:57Z")
> [@andros](#): > > As to the OP, I’m with those who say the chances of the Donald’s being shot are essentially nil, and also that I hope to hell it doesn’t happen. What are the chances of some Trump follower faking it to garner support for his candidate? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/172 "2016-03-14T14:56:26Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > I wondered if anyone would catch that. > > What is the correct acronym for the Secret Service? Given the recent new stories I’d say “incompotent” might work. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/173 "2016-03-14T15:30:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What are the chances of some Trump follower faking it to garner support for his candidate? So a Trump supporter is going to fake shooting The Donald? How does that work? He pulls out his finger and says “pew pew”? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/174 "2016-03-14T15:36:53Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > So a Trump supporter is going to fake shooting The Donald? How does that work? He pulls out his finger and says “pew pew”? No, but a fake death threat letter or fake bomb threat call, or even some yahoo claiming he saw a guy in the balcony with a gun are all certainly possible, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/175 "2016-03-14T15:40:20Z")
Maybe they’ll set fire to the Reichstag. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/176 "2016-03-14T17:35:54Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > I wondered if anyone would catch that. > > What is the correct acronym for the Secret Service? I _think_ it’s USSS. I think. SS is easier. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > What are the chances of some Trump follower faking it to garner support for his candidate? The way this election is going? High. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/177 "2016-03-14T18:36:49Z")
The reborn [Sturmabteilung](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/trump-militia-forms-to-forcefully-protect-rally-goers-against-far-left-agitators/) are going to make it more difficult. ---
**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/178 "2016-03-14T18:47:40Z")
Trump’s campaign is beginning(?) to devolve into “The Manchurian Candidate” swamp. Anybody seen Laurence Harvey up on the catwalks? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/179 "2016-03-14T18:48:12Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The reborn [Sturmabteilung](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/trump-militia-forms-to-forcefully-protect-rally-goers-against-far-left-agitators/) are going to make it more difficult. > [@](#): > > Within hours, the account reportedly had over 500 followers, and members were already asking for “uniform suggestions.” Brownshirts, here we come. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749/180 "2016-03-14T18:48:23Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What are the chances of some Trump follower faking it to garner support for his candidate? Since someone already tried to link the Chicago protesters to ISIL, nothing would surprise me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-trump-gets-shot/748749.md?page=10)