# How Long Before William And Kate Have A Baby? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 30, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298 "2011-04-30T16:55:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/101 "2011-05-01T21:13:54Z")
Going back to Harry and his genes, I don’t know how anyone can see his [abnormally close-set eyes](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/3200787/Gay-men-prefer-Prince-Harry-to-William-poll-shows.html) and doubt he’s Charles’ offspring. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/102 "2011-05-01T21:14:17Z")
Exactly. Both Kate and William owe a duty to the populace to produce an heir. The monarchy exists to perpetuate itself at this point. That they do it with style, grace and dignity for the most part is luck (given the personalities and incredible opportunities to mess up). The whole “she’s not a baby factory-she gets to choose” thing is ludicrous. Noone but **Dio** is looking at her in that light. She will have much more to do than just produce male heirs (preferably). William has pressure on for him to produce a viable heir, too–so things have changed a bit since say, Anne Boleyn’s time. I am much more intrigued by the possible infertility issue–what if Wills has a low sperm count or Kate turns out to be a habitual aborter (medical term, not suggesting she’d visit a clinic)? It would be such a 21st century problem superimposed on a 1000 year position. Fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![Lo-Slung\_Denim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f6c823/32.png) [@Lo-Slung\_Denim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lo-Slung_Denim)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/103 "2011-05-01T22:28:27Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > IIRC in the interview they gave after their engagement, they both stated that the want a family. So the argument is fairly irrelevant. They’re quoted as saying so [here](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11770033). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/104 "2011-05-01T22:35:58Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There actually were some rumors a few years ago that William was very ambivalent about the whole King thing and had told people he didn’t want to be King, and might not accept it. That the whole “virginity test” bullshit sounds about as credible as Kitty Kelley’s yarns about Elizabeth and Margaret being conceived via artificial insemination. Tell me, do you watch Nancy Grace? Because this is the kind of thing she spews. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/105 "2011-05-01T22:40:29Z")
No I don’t watch Nancy Grace. I got it from watching Joy Behar. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/106 "2011-05-01T22:49:27Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No I don’t watch Nancy Grace. I got it from watching Joy Behar. Well, there that settles it! ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/107 "2011-05-01T23:44:12Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > That the whole “virginity test” bullshit sounds about as credible as Kitty Kelley’s yarns about Elizabeth and Margaret being conceived via artificial insemination. > > Tell me, do you watch Nancy Grace? Because this is the kind of thing she spews. Diana may or may not have been a virgin, but the important thing was she didn’t have a reputation and people would believe she was a virgin. That’s what was important to the royal family. Camilla had a reputation and there was always the feat that an ex-lover of hers would go the the tabloids. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/108 "2011-05-02T00:16:16Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Diana may or may not have been a virgin, but the important thing was she didn’t have a reputation and people would believe she was a virgin. That’s what was important to the royal family. Camilla had a reputation and there was always the feat that an ex-lover of hers would go the the tabloids. I know that. What I’M refuting is **Dio** ’s claim that Diana had a physical “virginity test” – that she went to an OBGYN and they checked to see if she still had a hymen. It was a rumor spread about by your typical gossip columns. (Which had very little credibility.) ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/109 "2011-05-02T00:57:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I know that. What I’M refuting is **Dio** ’s claim that Diana had a physical “virginity test” – that she went to an OBGYN and they checked to see if she still had a hymen. It was a rumor spread about by your typical gossip columns. (Which had very little credibility.) I don’t think any family that expected the kids to learn to ride horses (i.e. all aristos) would think that a broken hymen could only have come from sex. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/110 "2011-05-02T01:37:47Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > I don’t think any family that expected the kids to learn to ride horses (i.e. all aristos) would think that a broken hymen could only have come from sex. Hey, don’t tell that to me – I’m not the one making the claim! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/111 "2011-05-02T11:28:13Z")
**Dio** and **even sven** , what you are saying is fine theoretically, but practically speaking most people on earth are burdened with expectations and family pressures of some sort and frankly it would be a sad existence sans the same. In this case the expectations are something they both would have known at the beginning and really if they resile from that then they know the consequences (not severe, not pleasent either) and in any case they have stated that _they desire a family_. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/112 "2011-05-02T11:52:38Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Hey, don’t tell that to me – I’m not the one making the claim! 😃 Oh, I know - I was backing you up. I should have added a ‘yup’ to the start or something. Amazing how quickly things change, isn’t it? Sure, there can’t actually have been a virginity test, but with Di they did want a girl who was very likely to be a virgin. Now Kate’s been living with William as a couple for years and nobody’s bothered at all. ---
**Author:** ![PeskiPiksi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e495f1/32.png) [@PeskiPiksi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeskiPiksi)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/113 "2011-05-02T14:02:33Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > Amazing how quickly things change, isn’t it? Sure, there can’t actually have been a virginity test, but with Di they did want a girl who was very likely to be a virgin. Now Kate’s been living with William as a couple for years and nobody’s bothered at all. No kidding. My grandmother (age 90) is all verklempt about their “trashy” ways. If I didn’t feel it would be disrespectful, I would totally be all, “Look, grandma. If the Queen can handle it, \*you \*can handle it!” ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/114 "2011-05-02T14:38:33Z")
> [@PeskiPiksi](#): > > No kidding. My grandmother (age 90) is all verklempt about their “trashy” ways. If I didn’t feel it would be disrespectful, I would totally be all, “Look, grandma. If the Queen can handle it, \*you \*can handle it!” Trashy is so relative though. I mean, compared to Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn this isn’t trashy at all. Or Louise de Kérouaille, or Maria Fitzherbert, or Dorothea Jordan. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298/115 "2011-05-02T17:40:56Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Trashy is so relative though. I mean, compared to Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn this isn’t trashy at all. Or Louise de Kérouaille, or Maria Fitzherbert, or Dorothea Jordan. True, at least Kate wasn’t pregnant on her wedding day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-before-william-and-kate-have-a-baby/580298.md?page=5)