# How long do you think the US government shutdown will last? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 9, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486 "2019-01-09T20:16:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/141 "2019-01-24T18:31:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Yes, Limbaugh and Fox News and co have been successful in portraying this mostly false narrative to conservative old folks. Does he still refer to “Feminazis”? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/142 "2019-01-25T15:17:37Z")
Shutdown sure to end very soon — La Guardia closed due to FAA shortage: [https://mobile.twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1088812445139910657?s=19](https://mobile.twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1088812445139910657?s=19) So, which of us won? The “1 to 2 month” folks? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/143 "2019-01-25T15:24:22Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Shutdown sure to end very soon — La Guardia closed due to FAA shortage: [https://mobile.twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1088812445139910657?s=19](https://mobile.twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1088812445139910657?s=19) > > So, which of us won? The “1 to 2 month” folks? (Slight correction: Outgoing flights are still happening, at least for now). ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/144 "2019-01-25T16:27:34Z")
I can’t help wondering what staffing looks like at the ARTCCs (I believe that’s the correct term for the facilities that manage traffic between airports). “We’re sorry, but due to a shortage of controllers no flights are currently allowed in the Houston ARTCC region. Have a nice day.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/145 "2019-01-25T16:52:01Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Shutdown sure to end very soon — La Guardia closed due to FAA shortage: [https://mobile.twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1088812445139910657?s=19](https://mobile.twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1088812445139910657?s=19) > > So, which of us won? The “1 to 2 month” folks? Trump doesn’t give a shit about the airports _or_ about Republicans tut-tutting in his general direction, so until the Republicans find their balls and do something that means a flying fuck the shutdown will continue. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/146 "2019-01-25T17:04:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Trump doesn’t give a shit about the airports _or_ about Republicans tut-tutting in his general direction, so until the Republicans find their balls and do something that means a flying fuck the shutdown will continue. All true – but I do think this might be a turning point toward testicular self-discovery (on the part of just enough Republican lawmakers – not the fuckface in the White House). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/147 "2019-01-25T17:12:44Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > All true – but I do think this might be a turning point toward testicular self-discovery (on the part of just enough Republican lawmakers – not the fuckface in the White House). If you look back to the beginning of this mess, I’ll bet there have been a minimum of half a dozen times since then where you have said something close to this. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/148 "2019-01-25T17:22:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If you look back to the beginning of this mess, I’ll bet there have been a minimum of half a dozen times since then where you have said something close to this. Good point. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/149 "2019-01-25T18:49:49Z")
[Tentative Deal Reached to End Shutdown](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-leaders-continue-to-seek-a-deal-to-end-shutdown-that-will-satisfy-trump/2019/01/25/09c898dc-20ad-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.43d090696c3c): > [@WaPo](#): > > Congressional leaders and President Trump have reached a tentative deal to temporarily reopen the government and continue talks on Trump’s demand for border wall money, Capitol Hill officials said Friday. > > With Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. I’m biased, so I’m curious: does anyone on this board see this as a political, ideological, or PR victory for Trump? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/150 "2019-01-25T18:54:16Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > [Tentative Deal Reached to End Shutdown](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-leaders-continue-to-seek-a-deal-to-end-shutdown-that-will-satisfy-trump/2019/01/25/09c898dc-20ad-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.43d090696c3c): > > I’m biased, so I’m curious: does anyone on this board see this as a political, ideological, or PR victory for Trump? If true, this is an overwhelming WWE-style beatdown by Nancy Pelosi. Trump was beaten so bad he begged for mercy. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/151 "2019-01-25T18:59:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If true, this is an overwhelming WWE-style beatdown by Nancy Pelosi. Trump was beaten so bad he begged for mercy. I mean, that’s how it looks to me. And it’s very difficult for me to imagine that in three weeks McConnell will agree to another government shutdown, because I think the chorus of OH HELL NO from across the land would just about flatten the state of Kentucky. I cannot see how he gets wall funding without major concessions to Democrats at this point. But like I said, I’m biased, and maybe I’m missing something. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/152 "2019-01-25T19:00:32Z")
I’ll note that Trump is an irrational toddler and I have no confidence he won’t change his mind in the next few hours, even if he already committed to this. So we’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/153 "2019-01-25T19:31:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ll note that Trump is an irrational toddler and I have no confidence he won’t change his mind in the next few hours, even if he already committed to this. So we’ll see. He could always change his mind–but he just gave a live speech in which he talked about how the government would reopen (and then ranted about how beautiful walls were or some such shit–I couldn’t listen to it for very long). If he goes back on the speech, I think he’ll not find McConnell’s very happy with him. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/154 "2019-01-25T19:37:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If true, this is an overwhelming WWE-style beatdown by Nancy Pelosi. Trump was beaten so bad he begged for mercy. Trump tapped out, and then cried like a babe. My hope (optimistic, I know) is that a portion of the MAGA capped dunces will be so disgusted by the crying toddler, that they start to peel off, and Trump’s approval rating takes a dive through the earth’s crust. Followed by Republican house members suddenly remembering that they never supported Trump in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/155 "2019-01-25T19:41:37Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Shutdown sure to end very soon — La Guardia closed due to FAA shortage: [https://mobile.twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1088812445139910657?s=19](https://mobile.twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1088812445139910657?s=19) > > So, which of us won? The “1 to 2 month” folks? Me: > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I give it about two more weeks. Federal employees will lose one paycheck on Friday. As the second pay period looms, Republicans will cave. Losing two paychecks will turn Republicans into Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/156 "2019-01-25T20:49:02Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Me: I remembered you saying that. Good call. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/157 "2019-01-25T21:30:04Z")
Let me know when Trump actually signs the bill. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/158 "2019-01-25T22:01:08Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Let me know when Trump actually signs the bill. What are the chances he tries to write “Plus $5.7 billion for a big wall” onto the copy of the bill he’s signing. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/159 "2019-01-25T22:04:38Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > What are the chances he tries to write “Plus $5.7 billion for a big wall” onto the copy of the bill he’s signing. If his signature is at all indicative of his handwriting, America will wonder why it’s granting citizenship to purple monkey dishwashers. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486/160 "2019-01-25T22:06:51Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > [Tentative Deal Reached to End Shutdown](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-leaders-continue-to-seek-a-deal-to-end-shutdown-that-will-satisfy-trump/2019/01/25/09c898dc-20ad-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.43d090696c3c): > > I’m biased, so I’m curious: does anyone on this board see this as a political, ideological, or PR victory for Trump? If we lived in a less polarized country then he might win points for putting the country before his own political interests and getting the government back to work. Presumably this is how they will try to spin it. As things stand, it will hurt him with his base, won’t move those people who are currently against him into supporting him, and there aren’t really very many people in the middle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-do-you-think-the-us-government-shutdown-will-last/827486.md?page=9)